Hello all,

Not sure if this is enough information to get some direction on my Fido setup issue i am having. This is what I see when I try to send areafix netmail.

BINKOUT Running native timed event: BINKOUT
10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT BinkIT/2.41 invoked with options:
10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT Attempting callout for 1:3634/59@fidonet, file: /home/pi/sbbs/fido/outbound/0e32003b.out
10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT JSBinkP/4 callout to 1:3634/59@fidonet started
10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT Connecting to 1:3634/59@fidonet at f59.n3634.z1.binkp.net:24554
10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT Connection to f59.n3634.z1.binkp.net:24554 failed (Error: Name or service not known).
10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT Timed event: BINKOUT returned 0

I can't seem to find what I have configured wrong. Thanks in advance for any direction. Xofraq

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Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Xofraq to All on Thu Oct 03 2024 08:44 pm

Hello all,

Not sure if this is enough information to get some direction on my Fido setup issue i am having. This is what I see when I try to send areafix netmail.

BINKOUT Running native timed event: BINKOUT
10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT BinkIT/2.41 invoked with options:
10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT Attempting callout for 1:3634/59@fidonet, file: /home/pi/sbbs/fido/outbound/0e32003b.out
10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT JSBinkP/4 callout to 1:3634/59@fidonet started 10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT Connecting to 1:3634/59@fidonet at f59.n3634.z1.binkp.net:24554
10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT Connection to f59.n3634.z1.binkp.net:24554 failed (Error: Name or service not known).
10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT Timed event: BINKOUT returned 0

I can't seem to find what I have configured wrong. Thanks in advance for any direction. Xofraq

That hostname seems to resolve for me:
$ host f59.n3634.z1.binkp.net
f59.n3634.z1.binkp.net is an alias for microbur.synchro.net. microbur.synchro.net has address 108.233.175.10

But... it's resolving to *your* BBS? You're trying to send an areafix netmail to yourself?
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Hello Xofraq!

03 Oct 24 20:44, you wrote to all:

BINKOUT Running native timed event: BINKOUT
10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT BinkIT/2.41 invoked with options:
10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT Attempting callout for 1:3634/59@fidonet,
file: /home/pi/sbbs/fido/outbound/0e32003b.out 10/3 20:30:50 evnt
BINKOUT JSBinkP/4 callout to 1:3634/59@fidonet started 10/3 20:30:50
evnt BINKOUT Connecting to 1:3634/59@fidonet at f59.n3634.z1.binkp.net:24554 10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT Connection to f59.n3634.z1.binkp.net:24554 failed (Error: Name or service not
known). 10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT Timed event: BINKOUT returned 0

tried it

Parsing nodelist file /var/spool/ftn/nodelist/NODELIST.277
Nodelist for Thursday, October 3, 2024 -- Day number 277 parsed, 945 IP-nodes pr ocessed (0.012 sec)
Calling '1:3634/59'. Call time: '0000-2400' UTC.
Now is: 0931 UTC.
microbur.synchro.net, 24554
Calling 1:3634/59 (108.233.175.10:24554)
OPT CRAM-MD5-176a8ea27fe0739462cabd35d24e8929
SYS MicroBurst II BBS
ZYZ stacy caudle
LOC Gastonia, NC
NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
TIME Fri Oct 04 2024 05:31:42 GMT-0400 (EDT)
VER BinkIT/2.41,JSBinkP/4,sbbs3.20a/Linux binkp/1.1
address: 1:3634/59@fidonet
address: 1337:3/202@tqwnet
address: 954:895/73@hobbynet
108.233.175.10 - Ok.
Session with 1:3634/59 done.

the only thing I can think of is that the binkp.net domain is causing you troubles.



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Xofraq wrote to All <=-

Not sure if this is enough information to get some direction on my Fido setup issue i am having. This is what I see when I try to send areafix netmail.

BINKOUT Running native timed event: BINKOUT
10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT BinkIT/2.41 invoked with options:
10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT Attempting callout for 1:3634/59@fidonet,
file: /home/pi/sbbs/fido/outbound/0e32003b.out 10/3 20:30:50 evnt
BINKOUT JSBinkP/4 callout to 1:3634/59@fidonet started 10/3 20:30:50
evnt BINKOUT Connecting to 1:3634/59@fidonet at f59.n3634.z1.binkp.net:24554 10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT Connection to f59.n3634.z1.binkp.net:24554 failed (Error: Name or service not known). 10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT Timed event: BINKOUT returned 0

I can't seem to find what I have configured wrong. Thanks in advance
for any direction. Xofraq

There have been issues lately with the binkp.net resolving fidonet-style addresses to an IP address.

You can avoid that by defining the location of a nodelist file on your
BBS machine, in the [domain] section for Fidonet, in your sbbsecho.ini
file.

It's documented here: https://wiki.synchro.net/config:sbbsecho.ini#domain_sections

That way, the calling system can just use the normal domain name for the called system as defined by the "INA:" part of the nodelist entry.



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Digital Man wrote to Xofraq <=-

BINKOUT Running native timed event: BINKOUT
10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT BinkIT/2.41 invoked with options:
10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT Attempting callout for 1:3634/59@fidonet, file: /home/pi/sbbs/fido/outbound/0e32003b.out
10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT JSBinkP/4 callout to 1:3634/59@fidonet started 10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT Connecting to 1:3634/59@fidonet at f59.n3634.z1.binkp.net:24554
10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT Connection to f59.n3634.z1.binkp.net:24554 failed (Error: Name or service not known).
10/3 20:30:50 evnt BINKOUT Timed event: BINKOUT returned 0

I can't seem to find what I have configured wrong. Thanks in advance for any direction. Xofraq

That hostname seems to resolve for me:
$ host f59.n3634.z1.binkp.net
f59.n3634.z1.binkp.net is an alias for microbur.synchro.net. microbur.synchro.net has address 108.233.175.10

But... it's resolving to *your* BBS? You're trying to send an areafix netmail to yourself?

I think he mentioned a little while back that he was trying to set up a
point off of his main system.



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Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Dennis Slagers to Xofraq on Fri Oct 04 2024 11:32 am

the only thing I can think of is that the binkp.net domain is causing you troubles.

I made some changes and now getting this:

10/4 07:54:03 evnt BBS Events Semaphore signaled for Timed Event: BINKOUT
10/4 07:54:03 evnt BINKOUT Running native timed event: BINKOUT
10/4 07:54:03 evnt BINKOUT BinkIT/2.41 invoked with options:
10/4 07:54:03 evnt BINKOUT Attempting callout for 1:3634/12@fidonet, file: /home/pi/sbbs/fido/outbound/0e32000c.out
10/4 07:54:03 evnt BINKOUT JSBinkP/4 callout to 1:3634/12@fidonet started
10/4 07:54:03 evnt BINKOUT Connecting to 1:3634/12@fidonet at fido-z1.darkrealms.ca:24554
10/4 07:54:03 evnt BINKOUT Authentication successful: non-secure
10/4 07:54:03 evnt BINKOUT Timed event: BINKOUT returned 0

Looks promising, but lets if I get a reply. TY!

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Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Digital Man to Xofraq on Thu Oct 03 2024 09:32 pm

But... it's resolving to *your* BBS? You're trying to send an areafix netmail to yourself?

Sounds like someting I would do! (-:

I made some changes and now I get this:

10/4 07:54:03 evnt BBS Events Semaphore signaled for Timed Event: BINKOUT
10/4 07:54:03 evnt BINKOUT Running native timed event: BINKOUT
10/4 07:54:03 evnt BINKOUT BinkIT/2.41 invoked with options:
10/4 07:54:03 evnt BINKOUT Attempting callout for 1:3634/12@fidonet, file: /home/pi/sbbs/fido/outbound/0e32000c.out
10/4 07:54:03 evnt BINKOUT JSBinkP/4 callout to 1:3634/12@fidonet started
10/4 07:54:03 evnt BINKOUT Connecting to 1:3634/12@fidonet at fido-z1.darkrealms.ca:24554
10/4 07:54:03 evnt BINKOUT Authentication successful: non-secure
10/4 07:54:03 evnt BINKOUT Timed event: BINKOUT returned 0

I will wait for a reply. Thanks!

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Xofraq wrote to Gamgee <=-

Re: Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Gamgee to Xofraq on Fri Oct 04 2024 07:39 am

You can avoid that by defining the location of a nodelist file on your
BBS machine, in the [domain] section for Fidonet, in your sbbsecho.ini
file.

I did update to point to the nodelist file. I am not getting the error
any more, but I never get a response.

Well, the answer to that probably lies in your log(s). On my system,
which may not be configured the same as yours, it's in 'sbbs.log'. It
is VERY likely to be a password mismatch between you and your FidoNet
hub. Check the log and see what it says when you try to send the
Areafix netmail. If it is indeed a password issue you'll have to work
that out with your uplink (hub).



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Re: Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Gamgee to Xofraq on Fri Oct 04 2024 07:07 pm

Well, the answer to that probably lies in your log(s). On my system, which may not be configured the same as yours, it's in 'sbbs.log'. It is VERY likely to be a password mismatch between you and your FidoNet hub.

Will check it out! Thanks for the input.

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Re: Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Gamgee to Xofraq on Fri Oct 04 2024 07:07 pm

which may not be configured the same as yours, it's in 'sbbs.log'. It is VERY likely to be a password mismatch between you and your FidoNet hub. Check the log and see what it says when you try to send the Areafix netmail. If it is indeed a password issue you'll have to work that out with your uplink (hub).

I have been working with my uplink, and still having the issues. My passwords are correct but seems that my NetMail is not being packed and is being sent out as .out files?

I have been over my setup 100 times, hope to figure it out soon. I need to step away from it for a few hours (days), lol.

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Xofraq wrote to Gamgee <=-

Re: Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Gamgee to Xofraq on Fri Oct 04 2024 07:07 pm

which may not be configured the same as yours, it's in 'sbbs.log'. It is VERY likely to be a password mismatch between you and your FidoNet hub. Check the log and see what it says when you try to send the Areafix netmail. If it is indeed a password issue you'll have to work that out with your uplink (hub).

I have been working with my uplink, and still having the issues. My passwords are correct but seems that my NetMail is not being packed and
is being sent out as .out files?

I have been over my setup 100 times, hope to figure it out soon. I need
to step away from it for a few hours (days), lol.

I have the same uplink. Below is the node definition for that node,
snipped from my /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.ini file. Obviously the passwords
have been redacted, but this works fine for me. Put in your own
passwords on this config and see what happens.

[node:1:3634/12]
Name = Mark Lewis
Comment = Southeast Star
Archive = None
PacketType = 2+
PacketPwd = xxxxxxxx
AreaFix = true
AreaFixPwd = xxxxxxxx
SessionPwd = xxxxxxxx
TicFilePwd = xxxxxxxx
Inbox =
Outbox =
Passive = false
Direct = true
Notify = false
Keys =
Status = Normal
BinkpHost = sestar.synchro.net
BinkpPort = 24554
BinkpPoll = true
BinkpPlainAuthOnly = false
BinkpAllowPlainAuth = false
BinkpAllowPlainText = true
BinkpTLS = false


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Re: Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Gamgee to Xofraq on Mon Oct 07 2024 07:55 am

Xofraq wrote to Gamgee <=-

Re: Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Gamgee to Xofraq on Fri Oct 04 2024 07:07 pm

which may not be configured the same as yours, it's in 'sbbs.log'. It > Ga> VERY likely to be a password mismatch between you and your FidoNet hub. > Ga> Check the log and see what it says when you try to send the Areafix
netmail. If it is indeed a password issue you'll have to work that out > Ga> with your uplink (hub).

I have been working with my uplink, and still having the issues. My passwords are correct but seems that my NetMail is not being packed and > Xo> is being sent out as .out files?

I have been over my setup 100 times, hope to figure it out soon. I need > Xo> to step away from it for a few hours (days), lol.

I have the same uplink. Below is the node definition for that node,
snipped from my /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.ini file. Obviously the passwords
have been redacted, but this works fine for me. Put in your own
passwords on this config and see what happens.

[node:1:3634/12]
Name = Mark Lewis
Comment = Southeast Star
Archive = None
PacketType = 2+
PacketPwd = xxxxxxxx
AreaFix = true
AreaFixPwd = xxxxxxxx
SessionPwd = xxxxxxxx
TicFilePwd = xxxxxxxx
Inbox =
Outbox =
Passive = false
Direct = true
Notify = false
Keys =
Status = Normal
BinkpHost = sestar.synchro.net
BinkpPort = 24554
BinkpPoll = true
BinkpPlainAuthOnly = false
BinkpAllowPlainAuth = false
BinkpAllowPlainText = true
BinkpTLS = false

... All the easy problems have been solved.

Just updarted some fields that were diffrent. Let's see what happens. (-:

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Re: Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Gamgee to Xofraq on Mon Oct 07 2024 07:55 am

Xofraq wrote to Gamgee <=-

Re: Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Gamgee to Xofraq on Fri Oct 04 2024 07:07 pm

which may not be configured the same as yours, it's in 'sbbs.log'. It > Ga> VERY likely to be a password mismatch between you and your FidoNet hub. > Ga> Check the log and see what it says when you try to send the Areafix
netmail. If it is indeed a password issue you'll have to work that out > Ga> with your uplink (hub).

I have been working with my uplink, and still having the issues. My passwords are correct but seems that my NetMail is not being packed and > Xo> is being sent out as .out files?

I have been over my setup 100 times, hope to figure it out soon. I need > Xo> to step away from it for a few hours (days), lol.

I have the same uplink. Below is the node definition for that node,
snipped from my /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.ini file. Obviously the passwords
have been redacted, but this works fine for me. Put in your own
passwords on this config and see what happens.

[node:1:3634/12]
Name = Mark Lewis
Comment = Southeast Star
Archive = None
PacketType = 2+
PacketPwd = xxxxxxxx
AreaFix = true
AreaFixPwd = xxxxxxxx
SessionPwd = xxxxxxxx
TicFilePwd = xxxxxxxx
Inbox =
Outbox =
Passive = false
Direct = true
Notify = false
Keys =
Status = Normal
BinkpHost = sestar.synchro.net
BinkpPort = 24554
BinkpPoll = true
BinkpPlainAuthOnly = false
BinkpAllowPlainAuth = false
BinkpAllowPlainText = true
BinkpTLS = false

... All the easy problems have been solved.

Looks like I am in business! Made these changes, password update and reated a new directory seemed to work. Thanks for the input!

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Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Xofraq to Digital Man on Fri Oct 04 2024 08:02:04

Does anyone know how long it takes to get a response from a hub for Fidonet?

I've sent out a message to RC and within 24 hours I got back a reply.

I sent out a request to who the RC said should be my hub, but I get nothing back. So part of me wonders if I'm having a problem sending to the hub.

The thing without a response makes it hard to know.

And the message is gone, it can't be found.

As far as I know I can't get a message back from the hub using fidonet type addressing because I don't have a password for the hub.

And I see in the log file bink pulls error about authentication, which makes sense to me.

So I'm not sure if I have done things correctly. I think so because the RC got back to me vai regualar email.

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bbsing wrote to All <=-

Re: Help with FidoNet setup

Does anyone know how long it takes to get a response from a hub for Fidonet?

I've sent out a message to RC and within 24 hours I got back a reply.

I sent out a request to who the RC said should be my hub, but I get nothing back. So part of me wonders if I'm having a problem sending to
the hub.

Depends on the people involved. Where do you live?



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Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: bbsing to All on Mon Nov 18 2024 11:03 am

Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Xofraq to Digital Man on Fri Oct 04 2024 08:02:04

Does anyone know how long it takes to get a response from a hub for Fidonet?

I've sent out a message to RC and within 24 hours I got back a reply.

The RC assign/give you a node address?
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Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Digital Man to bbsing on Mon Nov 18 2024 22:19:46

Does anyone know how long it takes to get a response from a hub for Fidonet?

I've sent out a message to RC and within 24 hours I got back a reply.

The RC assign/give you a node address?

No the RC sent me over to the NC at 105.

I think he did that because I'm in Island County WA, seems like the area outside of the cofirmned cities ont he page:

https://www.region17.net/whowho.html

I'm not sure though becuase it looks like 105 is in Oregon state.

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Re: Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Gamgee to bbsing on Mon Nov 18 2024 20:25:48

Does anyone know how long it takes to get a response from a hub for Fidonet?

I've sent out a message to RC and within 24 hours I got back a reply.

I sent out a request to who the RC said should be my hub, but I get nothing back. So part of me wonders if I'm having a problem sending to the hub.

Depends on the people involved. Where do you live?

I live on Whidbey Island, Island County WA.

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bbsing wrote to Gamgee <=-

Re: Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Gamgee to bbsing on Mon Nov 18 2024 20:25:48

Does anyone know how long it takes to get a response from a hub for Fidonet?

I've sent out a message to RC and within 24 hours I got back a reply.

I sent out a request to who the RC said should be my hub, but I get nothing back. So part of me wonders if I'm having a problem sending to the hub.

Depends on the people involved. Where do you live?

I live on Whidbey Island, Island County WA.

Okay, so looks like you'd go into Region 17, Net 138.

Here are the RC and NC lines from the current nodelist for them:

Region,17,North_West,AB_AK_BC_ID_MT_OR_NWT_SK_WA_YT,Dallas_Hinton,-Unpublished-,300,CM,MO,INA:bandmaster.ddnsfree.com,IBN

Host,138,Rainer_Net,Pierce_County+_WA,Gene_Buckle,-Unpublished-,300,CM,XX,IBN:bbs.retroarchive.org,IFT,ITN

So I'd suggest trying a netmail to Gene Buckle there, or perhaps log in
to that BBS and leave him a local message or something. Good luck.



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So I'm not sure if I have done things correctly. I think so because the RC got >back to me vai regualar email.

Sounds like you need to ask your RC, via email, if the hub operator has an email address you can contact him with first.


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Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Dumas Walker to BBSING on Tue Nov 19 2024 10:50 am

So I'm not sure if I have done things correctly. I think so because the RC got >back to me vai regualar email.

Sounds like you need to ask your RC, via email, if the hub operator has an email address you can contact him with first.

when i got a fidonet setup there was an issue with the hub and he refused to talk via internet email and he would only call ME during the day when i was at work. i could not call him or schedule a time. on top of that he was mostly deaf and couldn't hear shit over the phone. he's not with us now

i had to go with someone else. i wouldn't even carry fidonet. it's not worth it.
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Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Dumas Walker to BBSING on Tue Nov 19 2024 10:50 am

So I'm not sure if I have done things correctly. I think so because the RC got >back to me vai regualar email.

Sounds like you need to ask your RC, via email, if the hub operator has an email address you can contact him with first.

when i got a fidonet setup there was an issue with the hub and he
refused to talk via internet email and he would only call ME during the day when i was at work. i could not call him or schedule a time. on top
of that he was mostly deaf and couldn't hear shit over the phone. he's not with us now

i had to go with someone else. i wouldn't even carry fidonet. it's not worth it.

There are assholes everywhere, including in FidoNet.

Doesn't mean everyone in FidoNet is an asshole, or that it has no value.



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Sounds like you need to ask your RC, via email, if the hub operator has an email address you can contact him with first.

when i got a fidonet setup there was an issue with the hub and he refused to talk via internet email and he would only call ME during the day when i was

t

work. i could not call him or schedule a time. on top of that he was mostly deaf and couldn't hear shit over the phone. he's not with us now

i had to go with someone else. i wouldn't even carry fidonet. it's not worth it.

If BBSING also runs into similar issues, he may also need to try someone
else.


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Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Dumas Walker to BBSING on Tue Nov 19 2024 10:50:00

So I'm not sure if I have done things correctly. I think so because the RC got >back to me vai regualar email.

Sounds like you need to ask your RC, via email, if the hub operator has an email address you can contact him with first.

I think you are right here. I will have to ask for email.

I see in my message logs the binkp out is erroring due to a authentication.

This makes sense because I don't have a password with the hub.

I see the .out files still in my fidonet outbound folder.

So the process with Fidonet isn't working well from tutorials and documentation.

Back in the dialup days probably was different.

I'll seek out an email.

I think I'm blocked from logging into bbs.retroarchive.org, due to all the attempts at sending netmail to them.

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Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: bbsing to Dumas Walker on Sat Nov 23 2024 12:20 am

I see in my message logs the binkp out is erroring due to a authentication.

This makes sense because I don't have a password with the hub.

Normally, authenticated BinkP sessions are allowed/just-fine. The problem would be if one of the endpoints has a password defined and the other does not (or they don't match). But not having a password (on both sides) does not normally cause any kind of authentication error.
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Re: Help with FidoNet setup
By: Digital Man to bbsing on Sat Nov 23 2024 12:26 pm

Normally, authenticated BinkP sessions are allowed/just-fine.

I meant to say/write *unauthenticated* BinkP session are normally allowed/fine. --
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