Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

With the latest releases of Chrome and Edge browsers for Linux/Debian, there's a very noticeable issue with accelerated graphics. On certain websites, even gmail.com, there are weird shapes covering elements.

I've heard of this, but never seen it first hand. Chrome and Edge are spyware and won't be on my Linux systems. We use Brave - and now we get political.

I think it's political. Only elite developers know the workaround for developers. For users, the workaround is to disable accelerated
graphics in Chrome's system settings (but who's gonna bother to do
that?)

The normal software used to manage the screen and keyboard input for Linux distros is X11. But there are some people who say that X11 is "long and the tooth" and needs a rewrite - they may be right. BUT that rewrite, called Wayland, is very far from being ready for prime time.

And now we get into the politics here.

The company (Red Hat?) who controlled X11 effectively choked it by not allowing people to make bug fixes and enhancements for it. Finally it came to a head and they publically admitted they wanted to kill X11 in favor of Wayland.

Now this would all seem like a group of geeks and nerds having a "vi vs. emacs" type of argument. But when you actually look at what's going on the Open Source community, it seems that many open source projects have been taken over by the Wokies.

And the Wokies are, without exception, completely incompetent so something like Wayland will never be complete or feature match X11 - especially now that someone forked X11 into XLibre, applied all those bug fixes and enhancements.

XLibre has shown everyone how Woke things have become - not by discussion technical issues, but by the normal Woke plays being made.

And what's political about the Brave browser? It seems that many Wokies don't like the politics of the guy who writes it. So they bad mouth it all the time.


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With the latest releases of Chrome and Edge browsers for Linux/Debian there's a very noticeable issue with accelerated graphics. On certain websites, even gmail.com, there are weird shapes covering elements.

I've heard of this, but never seen it first hand. Chrome and Edge are spyware and won't be on my Linux systems. We use Brave - and now we get political.

Some things I've figured out since I made that post are: 1) The accelerated graphics feature in browsers uses the client machine's GPU to reduce strain
on the client machine's CPU, which should improve performance, but at what cost? 2) My GPU is 17 years old and outdated, and the new Chromium engine (used by Chrome and Edge) doesn't cater to such old GPUs.

But they literally broke web browsing for people who use old computers and I don't believe that it's justified; web browsing has been lighting-fast for at the past 20 years or more, so who needs graphics acceleration? This is an attempt to get people to buy new computers at a time when Trump's tariffs might actually have a small impact on the price, with the logic that "the dummies will blame Trump before they blame Chrome updates."

The company (Red Hat?) who controlled X11 effectively choked it by not allowing people to make bug fixes and enhancements for it. Finally it came to a head and they publically admitted they wanted to kill X11 in favor of Wayland.

I wasn't aware of this because I only began using Linux about 15 years ago. And I was going to ask you "What difference does it make when all this software is free?" But the answer to that is self-explanatory; it's not the money, it's the power.

And the Wokies are, without exception, completely incompetent so
something like Wayland will never be complete or feature match X11 - especially now that someone forked X11 into XLibre, applied all those
bug fixes and enhancements.

Right. We're under their control (at times) even though they aren't adept at controlling things.

And what's political about the Brave browser? It seems that many Wokies don't like the politics of the guy who writes it. So they bad mouth it all the time.

I'll give it a try sometime but I'm primarily a (hobbyist) web developer so I want to see things through the eyes of the average web user which I believe is via Chrome primarily and Edge alternatively.

Firefox doesn't deploy graphics acceleration by default, which is great, but it does me little good because I don't think many people actually use Firefox.

I'm content in assuming that most people (70% according to "the experts") use mobile devices for web browsing, and graphics acceleration is not an issue for most mobile users unless they are part of the minority that uses ancient android devices.

I try to adapt my web apps to work well on all devices but the browser developers can care less about that and they're even throwing curveballs to it.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

Some things I've figured out since I made that post are: 1) The accelerated graphics feature in browsers uses the client machine's GPU
to reduce strain on the client machine's CPU, which should improve performance, but at what cost? 2) My GPU is 17 years old and outdated,
and the new Chromium engine (used by Chrome and Edge) doesn't cater to such old GPUs.

Then drop the Chromium engine.

But they literally broke web browsing for people who use old computers
and I don't believe that it's justified;

As a software developer, I know what a pain it is to support "old" hardware while trying to make for a better experience for customers who use new hardware (and expect a better experience). So I can understand that.

But, at the root, it's the Microsoft/Apple/etc. plan to make people repurchase their hardware and software all the time.

I wasn't aware of this because I only began using Linux about 15 years ago. And I was going to ask you "What difference does it make when all this software is free?" But the answer to that is self-explanatory;
it's not the money, it's the power.

Exactly. Free and open software are outside of the control of the Elitists, until they subvert and destroy it.

Right. We're under their control (at times) even though they aren't
adept at controlling things.

They can't control anything, especially when they kick all the people who can actually do things off their projects.

Firefox doesn't deploy graphics acceleration by default, which is
great, but it does me little good because I don't think many people actually use Firefox.

Not after they made public that they spy on you and sell all that data - and you have no way to opt out.

I try to adapt my web apps to work well on all devices but the browser developers can care less about that and they're even throwing
curveballs to it.

At this point, any web developer who writes a web site that only works on a subset of browsers isn't a web developer. He's a nepotism or DEI hire.


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performance, but at what cost? 2) My GPU is 17 years old and outdated and the new Chromium engine (used by Chrome and Edge) doesn't cater t such old GPUs.

Then drop the Chromium engine.

I have yet to learn how to write Java apps. Maybe that's the best workaround for the the "graphics acceleration" issue. ("If this website looks like crap, just download the app.")

But they literally broke web browsing for people who use old computer and I don't believe that it's justified;

As a software developer, I know what a pain it is to support "old" hardware while trying to make for a better experience for customers who use new hardware (and expect a better experience). So I can understand that.

A better experience sounds good, but the elite are full of it. Speed just isn't an issue anymore, and they're using it as an excuse to achieve financial goals (it was probably planned at the WEF.)

I try to adapt my web apps to work well on all devices but the browse developers can care less about that and they're even throwing curveballs to it.

At this point, any web developer who writes a web site that only works
on a subset of browsers isn't a web developer. He's a nepotism or DEI hire.

That's another possible explanation for the graphics acceleration thing; if they're not doing it to sell more hardware, they're doing it to make things easier for their monkeys.

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