• Sempoint

    From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to ALAN on Sat Aug 27 14:46:00 2022
    Since Sempoint is not a point program I will look elsewhere for assistance with it.

    Sempoint is indeed a point program as well as QWK (and BW, I think) reader.

    The point setup is different than QWK.

    I miissed 3 emails today by assuming they will make it into my QWK packet. They didn't.

    Is your email area turned on in your qwk setup?

    So I am in a QWK world now.

    Not a bad place to be at all. :)

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  • From ALAN@1:135/392 to ALAN IANSON on Sat Aug 27 19:50:12 2022
    Since Sempoint is not a point program I will look elsewhere for assistance with it.

    Sempoint is indeed a point program as well as QWK (and BW, I think) reader.



    How do I make it a point program?




    The point setup is different than QWK.

    I miissed 3 emails today by assuming they will make it into my QWK packet. They didn't.

    Is your email area turned on in your qwk setup?


    I will look, but I did not see it. I would love to make it a direct client.

    Responds well on wine.

    So I am in a QWK world now.



    Not a bad place to be at all. :)

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/6 to ALAN on Sun Aug 28 10:05:26 2022
    Hi ALAN.

    27 Aug 12 20:07, you wrote to you:
    ==

    Bye bye!
    Alan

    Please check your clock.

    'Tommi

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to ALAN on Sun Aug 28 07:44:00 2022
    Hello ALAN!

    ** On Monday 27.08.12 - 18:12, ALAN wrote to ALL:
    ^^^^^^^^

    Huh?


    Since Sempoint is not a point program I will look elsewhere for assistance with it.

    [...]

    * SeM. 2.22 UNREG * ((((( In Stereo Where Available )))))

    Look for 2.26. It's the final version. It works with QWK
    right out of the box.
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  • From ALAN@1:135/392 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Mon Aug 29 11:38:32 2022
    Hello ALAN!

    ** On Monday 27.08.12 - 18:12, ALAN wrote to ALL:
    ^^^^^^^^

    Huh?


    Since Sempoint is not a point program I will look elsewhere for assistance
    with it.

    [...]

    * SeM. 2.22 UNREG * ((((( In Stereo Where Available )))))

    Look for 2.26. It's the final version. It works with QWK
    right out of the box.

    I cannot find version 2.2.6.

    May I trouble you for a link?

    Alan



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  • From Carlos Navarro@2:341/234 to ALAN on Mon Aug 29 19:16:38 2022
    29 Aug 2022 11:38, you wrote to AUGUST ABOLINS:

    Look for 2.26. It's the final version. It works with QWK
    right out of the box.

    I cannot find version 2.2.6.

    May I trouble you for a link?

    Found it here:

    http://cd.textfiles.com/thebbsorg/ddsbbs/
    semp226.zip

    But I think that even that last version is too outdated (issues with MSGID/REPLY kludges, IIRC)

    Carlos

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  • From ALAN@1:135/392 to CARLOS NAVARRO on Mon Aug 29 17:50:02 2022
    29 Aug 2022 11:38, you wrote to AUGUST ABOLINS:

    Look for 2.26. It's the final version. It works with QWK
    right out of the box.

    I cannot find version 2.2.6.

    May I trouble you for a link?

    Found it here:

    http://cd.textfiles.com/thebbsorg/ddsbbs/
    semp226.zip

    But I think that even that last version is too outdated (issues with MSGID/REPLY kludges, IIRC)


    Gotta try something. I can't get Online Express to work.

    Alan










    Carlos

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  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to ALAN on Tue Aug 30 11:02:00 2022
    Hello Alan!

    *** Monday 29.08.22 at 11:38, Alan wrote to AUGUST ABOLINS:

    [snip]
    Look for 2.26. It's the final version. It works with QWK
    right out of the box.

    I cannot find version 2.2.6.

    May I trouble you for a link?

    https://stargate.org.uk/sempoint/semp226.zip

    Regards,
    Martin

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to All on Fri Nov 1 07:44:00 2024
    Hi All,

    Does anyone use sempoint? I'm not understanding how the external
    editors work. Is it possible to use a different editor? Or how do I run
    the message through say a spell checker before I send?

    The docs are not clear on this feature.

    Shawn

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.59 to Shawn Highfield on Fri Nov 1 08:15:53 2024
    On 01 Nov. 2024 07:44, you wrote to All:
    Hi All,

    Does anyone use sempoint? I'm not understanding how the external
    editors work.

    I revisited sempoint and tested it extensively just a handful of years ago. But I don't think the external editor feature was working. Will check my notes and past messages on this in the echos.
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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Shawn Highfield on Fri Nov 1 19:10:00 2024
    Hello Shawn!

    Ahhhh! That would explain why I can't figure it out. :)
    It's not a deal breaker for me as I can just configure the
    areas for qwk/bwave into another reader if I wanted to.
    I'm just too lazy to add them all manually to my
    areas.bbs.

    Did you check the context-sensitive HELP? Click on that and a
    whole panel on the configuration pops up. The key is to pass
    $TMP$ properly to your editor.

    External Editors configuration

    Menu: Configuration | External Editors


    Use

    With this function you can configure SemPoint for use with up to nine different external
    editors (e.g. WordPerfect) or spell checkers or grammar checkers or anything else that
    can apply to the text of a message.


    Instructions

    Use the buttons Add Change Delete to call the function you need.
    Note that the first line, corresponding to the "PGP encrypt" function can not be deleted.



    Click the Close button to save configuration and exit.


    If you do find your notes I apreciate your hunting it down
    for me, I don't have an archive for this area. :(

    Nothing sofar based on some key words. I don't delete anything
    that I have posted myself. I'll keep looking.

    I have sempoint here too. I'll see if I can trigger notepad as
    my editor or something.
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    ../|ug

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to August Abolins on Sat Nov 2 09:08:00 2024
    Hi August,
    On <Sat, 01 Nov 24>, you wrote me:

    Did you check the context-sensitive HELP? Click on that and a
    whole panel on the configuration pops up. The key is to pass
    $TMP$ properly to your editor.

    Yes I've read it many times through. I have notepad configured
    but.... how do I call it?

    Click the Close button to save configuration and exit.

    See? No instructions on how to use the said external editor.

    I have sempoint here too. I'll see if I can trigger notepad as
    my editor or something.

    That would work.

    Shawn

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Shawn Highfield on Sat Nov 2 10:27:00 2024
    Hello Shawn!

    Yes I've read it many times through. I have notepad
    configured but.... how do I call it?

    True.. invoking it seems to be a mystery.


    I have sempoint here too. I'll see if I can trigger notepad as
    my editor or something.

    That would work.

    I dunno how to do it. I went through Preferences and anything
    else that looked obvious. No setting or information on how to
    invoke any of the "configured" external programs. It's
    probably a hidden hot-key sequence.

    Personally, I found the internal editor quite nice and never
    pursued anything further.

    Maybe chatgpt can scour for the long lost info?

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to August Abolins on Sat Nov 2 16:30:12 2024
    August Abolins wrote in a message to Shawn Highfield:

    configured but.... how do I call it?
    True.. invoking it seems to be a mystery.

    I'm glad you couldn't find it either. I really thought I was losing my mind.

    invoke any of the "configured" external programs. It's
    probably a hidden hot-key sequence.

    Must be yes.

    Personally, I found the internal editor quite nice and never
    pursued anything further.

    It's fine. I want to run things through a spell checker and maybe use a normal tagline instead of the origin thing it does internally.

    Maybe chatgpt can scour for the long lost info?

    Well, How would it know? Someone would have had to feed the source code into it and if they did that why wouldn't they release it so we could look at it? I don't care if it won't compile, just want to know the magic. :)

    Shawn

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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.22 to Shawn Highfield on Sun Nov 3 12:58:57 2024
    I'm glad you couldn't find it either. I really thought I was losing my mind.

    It's really weird that the internal Help documents it and the program allows configuring it, but there seems to be no obvious way to trigger it.

    It's fine. I want to run things through a spell checker and maybe use a normal tagline instead of the origin thing it does internally.

    I thought Sempoint's own Tagline feature was pretty good.

    Maybe chatgpt can scour for the long lost info?

    Well, How would it know? Someone would have had to feed the source code into it and if they did that why wouldn't they release it so we could look at it? I don't care if it won't compile, just want to know the magic. :)

    I thought maybe chatgpt had tentacles that would reach a variety of sources on the net.

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to August Abolins on Sun Nov 3 17:21:00 2024
    August Abolins wrote in a message to Shawn Highfield:

    To configure Sempoint 2.26 to use an external editor for writing or
    editing messages, follow these steps:

    I mean yeah.... The .cfg file is a database or binary file or wahtever the heck they are called.

    If I view it with a text editor I can see the editors I have configured.

    Ensure that the editor path is correct and accessible from the
    command line in your DOS environment.

    Done.

    EDITOR=C:\DOS\EDIT.COM %f
    Replace %f with the variable Sempoint uses to represent the
    message file. This can vary, so consult the documentation to confirm
    if Sempoint supports %f or a similar placeholder.

    It uses something else. The default setup is looked for $TMP$ in the main sempoint directory. This file is never created. I've watched the filesection step by step. No files are created in any of the temp or sempoint directory structure.

    Ensure youAEre not running into memory limitations if youAEre on
    an older DOS environment.

    Lots of memory.

    Thanks for helping though August, I appreciate it.

    Shawn

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Shawn Highfield on Sun Nov 3 17:47:00 2024
    Hello Shawn!

    I thought Sempoint's own Tagline feature was pretty good.

    I don't like how it puts it in the origin line, and shortens it to like
    50 characters.

    Huh? You can change the default prefix "SemPoint @VER#+" to
    anything you want, or delete that string. Then you will have a
    few more chars for your own tagline.


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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Shawn Highfield on Sun Nov 3 17:55:00 2024
    ChatGPT said:

    To configure Sempoint 2.26 to use an external editor for writing or editing messages, follow these steps:

    Select an Editor: First, make sure you have a text editor that can be launched from the command line, like EDIT.COM, EDIT.EXE, or any DOS-compatible editor of your choice.

    Set Up the Editor in Sempoint:
    Open your SEPOINT.CFG file (Sempoint's configuration file) in a text editor.
    Look for a line that defines the editor setting, usually
    something like EDITOR=.
    Specify the path to the external editor. For example:

    [...]

    I just checked my own /SEM dir, and although there is a
    sempoint.cfg file, it's binary. AI is a big fail. :D




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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to August Abolins on Mon Nov 4 05:51:00 2024
    Hi August,
    On <Mon, 03 Nov 24>, you wrote me:

    created in any of the temp or sempoint directory
    structure.
    That was a good idea to watch for the creation of any new
    temporary files.

    My thought process was if I could at least find the temp file, I
    know the external editor feature is there.

    As you mentioned in another msg, perhaps the external call was
    a salient feature of a registered copy. But when the updated
    ver 2.26 was simply released free, maybe the external call was
    missed.

    That's all I can think of. Oh well thanks for spending the time to
    check into it with me! If nothing else at least it was a way to help
    kill some time. LOL

    Shawn

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Shawn Highfield on Sun Nov 17 08:12:00 2024
    Hello Shawn!

    I found it!!!!!! I'm writing this message using TSE as
    the editor from within Sempoint.

    After you hit reply to the message. Right click the mouse and from there the external menu shows up! I just right clicked by accident and found
    it and can say this is working.

    Now that sounds familiar - that is, extra right-click for
    hidden menus. Thx.

    But it doesn't seem to work for me. It just stalls, and I have
    to force a kill on the program to get out of that. I guess it
    can't find the simple notepad.exe.

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    ../|ug

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to August Abolins on Sun Nov 17 07:02:00 2024
    Hi August,
    On <Mon, 03 Nov 24>, you wrote me:

    As you mentioned in another msg, perhaps the external call was
    a salient feature of a registered copy. But when the updated
    ver 2.26 was simply released free, maybe the external call was
    missed.

    I found it!!!!!! I'm writing this message using TSE as the editor
    from within Sempoint.

    After you hit reply to the message. Right click the mouse and from there
    the external menu shows up! I just right clicked by accident and found it
    and can say this is working.

    Shawn


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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to August Abolins on Sun Nov 17 15:11:00 2024
    Hi August,
    On <Mon, 17 Nov 24>, you wrote me:

    Now that sounds familiar - that is, extra right-click for
    hidden menus. Thx.

    No problem. When I found it I wrote to you right away since,
    you spent so much time trying to find it as well.
    I am using TSE again as I type this.

    But it doesn't seem to work for me. It just stalls, and I have
    to force a kill on the program to get out of that. I guess it
    can't find the simple notepad.exe.

    I get that as well, it seems to be the PIF file that it's attempting to
    launch. I configured another editor called TSE and it always works.

    Shawn


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