Reading z2daily.094

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: z2daily.094
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1199 nodes read, 3 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E ,407,Green_Hell,Kiev,Andrey_Elperin,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading dailyutf.101

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: dailyutf.101
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1206 nodes read, 6 flagged as ;E .

;E ,9999,New_Node_Applicant,Net_229,New_SysOp,-Unpublished-,300,MO
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E ,9999,New_Fidonet_Node,Net_153,New_Fido_SysOp,-Unpublished-,300,CM,MO
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E ,9999,New_Node_Applicant,Net_340,New_SysOp,-Unpublished-,300,MO
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E ,407,Green_Hell,Kiev,Andrey_Elperin,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading z2daily.108

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: z2daily.108
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1199 nodes read, 3 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E ,407,Green_Hell,Kiev,Andrey_Elperin,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading dailyutf.115

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: dailyutf.115
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1199 nodes read, 3 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E ,407,Green_Hell,Kiev,Andrey_Elperin,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading z2daily.122

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: z2daily.122
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1199 nodes read, 3 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E ,407,Green_Hell,Kiev,Andrey_Elperin,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading dailyutf.129

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: dailyutf.129
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1199 nodes read, 3 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E ,407,Green_Hell,Kiev,Andrey_Elperin,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading z2daily.136

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: z2daily.136
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1199 nodes read, 3 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E ,407,Green_Hell,Kiev,Andrey_Elperin,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading dailyutf.143

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: dailyutf.143
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1199 nodes read, 3 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E ,407,Green_Hell,Kiev,Andrey_Elperin,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading z2daily.150

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: z2daily.150
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1201 nodes read, 3 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E ,407,Green_Hell,Kiev,Andrey_Elperin,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading dailyutf.157

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: dailyutf.157
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1196 nodes read, 3 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E ,407,Green_Hell,Kiev,Andrey_Elperin,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading dailyutf.178

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: dailyutf.178
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1190 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading dailyutf.178

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: dailyutf.178
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1190 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Hi All,

On 2025-06-27 00:16:25, NlCheck wrote to you:

Reading dailyutf.178

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: dailyutf.178
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1190 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IF
C ;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

One less this week. Removed was:

;E ,407,Green_Hell,Kiev,Andrey_Elperin,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --


Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.3.2.4-B20240523
* Origin: NPC Station (2:280/464)

Reading z2daily.199

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: z2daily.199
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1190 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading dailyutf.206

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: dailyutf.206
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1190 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading z2daily.213

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: z2daily.213
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1191 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading dailyutf.220

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: dailyutf.220
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1193 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading z2daily.227

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: z2daily.227
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1192 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Hello All,

Friday August 15 2025 00:14, NlCheck wrote to you:

Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300, MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

Attempts to connect to the nodes in net 4614 result in a time out. Net 4614 is dead. Has been for a long time. Net 4614 should be removed fom the nodelist.


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: Nodelist Police Station (2:280/5555)

Reading dailyutf.234

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: dailyutf.234
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1194 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading z2daily.241

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: z2daily.241
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1196 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading dailyutf.248

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: dailyutf.248
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1197 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading z2daily.255

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: z2daily.255
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1196 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading dailyutf.262

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: dailyutf.262
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1195 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading z2daily.269

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: z2daily.269
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1197 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Hello All,

Friday September 26 2025 00:15, NlCheck wrote to you:

Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,C M,IBN,IFC ;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

Net 4614 is dead. Attempt to connect to the nodes of both sysops result in a time out. Has been the case for a long time.


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: Nodelist Police Station (2:280/5555)

Reading dailyutf.276

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: dailyutf.276
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1198 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Hello All,

Friday October 03 2025 00:15, NlCheck wrote to you:

Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,C M,IBN,IFC ;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

Net 4614 is dead. RC46 does not respond to netmail or e-mail.


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
* Origin: Nodelist Police Station (2:280/5555)

Reading z2daily.283

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: z2daily.283
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1198 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading dailyutf.290

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: dailyutf.290
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1195 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

NlCheck wrote to All <=-

Reading dailyutf.290

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

Hey Ward. Why haven't you fixed this?

It's clearly not an acceptable nodelist entry. What reason do you have
to keep it there so long, even when you *KNOW* it's wrong?



... Oxymoron: A contradiction in terms, e.g. rap music...
=== MultiMail/Linux v0.52
--- SBBSecho 3.29-Linux
* Origin: Palantir * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL * (1:135/115)

Reading z2daily.297

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: z2daily.297
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1195 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

NlCheck wrote to All <=-

Reading z2daily.297

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: z2daily.297
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1195 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM, IBN,IFC ;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

I wonder why Z2C doesn't correct this. Very strange. Especially when
one of them is a ZIN under his direct control. Strange indeed.




... Pros are those who do their jobs well, even when they don't feel like it. === MultiMail/Linux v0.52
--- SBBSecho 3.29-Linux
* Origin: Palantir * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL * (1:135/115)

Reading dailyutf.304

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: dailyutf.304
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1195 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading z2daily.311

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: z2daily.311
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1194 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading dailyutf.318

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: dailyutf.318
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1193 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading z2daily.325

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: z2daily.325
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1194 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading dailyutf.332

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: dailyutf.332
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1195 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading dailyutf.346

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: dailyutf.346
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1200 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading z2daily.353

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: z2daily.353
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1201 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,43,Fireside_BBS,Little_Flock_AR,Vincent_Jacobs,-Unpulished-,300,XA,INA:firesidebbs/com,IBN
;E -- Invalid phone number -- '-Unpulished-'
;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

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Hi All,

On 2025-12-19 00:16:03, NlCheck wrote to you:

;E ,43,Fireside_BBS,Little_Flock_AR,Vincent_Jacobs,-Unpulished-,300, XA,INA:firesidebbs/com,IBN
;E -- Invalid phone number -- '-Unpulished-' ;E

This one is new this week. Should be an easy fix! ;-)

Bye, Wilfred.

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Reading dailyutf.360

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: dailyutf.360
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1204 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

Reading z2daily.002

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: z2daily.002
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1206 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM,IBN,IFC
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

--- Ftoolsw32 Post
* Origin: NlCheck (2:280/5555)

NlCheck wrote to All <=-

Reading z2daily.002

nlcheckw32 1.00 beta 2017.12.30, Nodelist check utility
(c) 2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)
Noncommercial use allowed.
Running in mode 0
Reading input from: z2daily.002
Writing output to: allz.lst
All done! 1206 nodes read, 2 flagged as ;E .

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300,MO,CM, IBN,IFC ;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

So, some vague Ukranian NC, and the Z2C.... are the only ones who
cannot correct a blatant error in their nodelist segments.

Quite impressive. Or is that quite mysterious?




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Hello Dan,

On Thursday January 01 2026 19:37, you wrote to NlCheck:

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E
Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300
,MO,CM, IBN,IFC ;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

So, some vague Ukranian NC, and the Z2C.... are the only ones who
cannot correct a blatant error in their nodelist segments.

Quite impressive. Or is that quite mysterious?

Ukraine is a mess. Net 4614 is dead for all intents and purposes and the RC46 is not responding.

As for the other one... No comment.


Cheers, Michiel

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Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Dan Clough <=-

;E ,29,WinPoint_Help,D,Tim_Schattkowsky,-Unpublished-,300
;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --
;E
Host,4614,Sumy_Net,Sumy_Ukraine,Vladimir_Sklyar,-Unpublished-,300
,MO,CM, IBN,IFC ;E -- non Pvt node has no connect info --

So, some vague Ukranian NC, and the Z2C.... are the only ones who
cannot correct a blatant error in their nodelist segments.

Quite impressive. Or is that quite mysterious?

Ukraine is a mess. Net 4614 is dead for all intents and purposes and
the RC46 is not responding.

As for the other one... No comment.

Yeah, that's the mysterious part. I wonder if he doesn't respond
because:

1. He doesn't think it's a wrong entry.

2. He knows damn well it's wrong, but won't/can't tell us why.

Come on, Ward. Fess up. Why don't you fix this? What's the secret
regarding Tim?



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Hi Dan,

On 2026-01-02 19:35:28, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

As for the other one... No comment.

Yeah, that's the mysterious part. I wonder if he doesn't respond
because:

1. He doesn't think it's a wrong entry.

2. He knows damn well it's wrong, but won't/can't tell us why.

Come on, Ward. Fess up. Why don't you fix this? What's the secret regarding Tim?

It's not a secret, just read back in the FTSC_PUBLIC area from around the election time, and it will become clear... ;-)

Bye, Wilfred.

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Hi Dan,

On 2026-01-03 09:05:02, you wrote to me:

Yeah, that's the mysterious part. I wonder if he doesn't respond
because:

1. He doesn't think it's a wrong entry.

2. He knows damn well it's wrong, but won't/can't tell us why.

Come on, Ward. Fess up. Why don't you fix this? What's the secret
regarding Tim?

It's not a secret, just read back in the FTSC_PUBLIC area from around
the election time, and it will become clear... ;-)

Yeah, I just refreshed on that...

It's absolute bullshit.

This guy was allowed to have a non-valid entry in the nodelist so he
could be elected to the FTSC. It's very obvious that that is not
allowed by P4 and that some "special arrangement" was made so he could
be on the FTSC.

That's how I see it too...

Why is a ZC allowed to do such things? Why does/did Ward want this
guy on the FTSC so badly?

I'm not sure, but it might have to do with that otherwise the minimum number of members wouldn't be reached.

Why can't the potential candidate get an actual/valid (MO) node number like anyone else would be required to do?

I don't think that was explained.

Now that he *is* on the FTSC, what groundbreaking achievements has he accomplished there, for the betterment of FidoNet?

What has any FTSC member done in the last couple of years?

Hey Ward. Hey Tim. Feel free to jump in here and provide some
answers!

Ward claims he generally doesn't read this area.


Bye, Wilfred.

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Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Yeah, that's the mysterious part. I wonder if he doesn't respond
because:

1. He doesn't think it's a wrong entry.

2. He knows damn well it's wrong, but won't/can't tell us why.

Come on, Ward. Fess up. Why don't you fix this? What's the secret regarding Tim?

It's not a secret, just read back in the FTSC_PUBLIC area from around
the election time, and it will become clear... ;-)

Yeah, I just refreshed on that...

It's absolute bullshit.

This guy was allowed to have a non-valid entry in the nodelist so he
could be elected to the FTSC. It's very obvious that that is not
allowed by P4 and that some "special arrangement" was made so he could
be on the FTSC.

Why is a ZC allowed to do such things? Why does/did Ward want this guy
on the FTSC so badly?

Why can't the potential candidate get an actual/valid (MO) node number
like anyone else would be required to do?

Now that he *is* on the FTSC, what groundbreaking achievements has he accomplished there, for the betterment of FidoNet?

Hey Ward. Hey Tim. Feel free to jump in here and provide some answers!



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Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Yeah, that's the mysterious part. I wonder if he doesn't respond
because:

1. He doesn't think it's a wrong entry.

2. He knows damn well it's wrong, but won't/can't tell us why.

Come on, Ward. Fess up. Why don't you fix this? What's the secret
regarding Tim?

It's not a secret, just read back in the FTSC_PUBLIC area from around
the election time, and it will become clear... ;-)

Yeah, I just refreshed on that...

It's absolute bullshit.

This guy was allowed to have a non-valid entry in the nodelist so he
could be elected to the FTSC. It's very obvious that that is not
allowed by P4 and that some "special arrangement" was made so he could
be on the FTSC.

That's how I see it too...

Good. That's how anybody with any sense would see it. Simple facts.

Why is a ZC allowed to do such things? Why does/did Ward want this
guy on the FTSC so badly?

I'm not sure, but it might have to do with that otherwise the minimum number of members wouldn't be reached.

Hmmmm. Not sure what the repercussions of that would be.

Why can't the potential candidate get an actual/valid (MO) node number like anyone else would be required to do?

I don't think that was explained.

It certainly was not, and that's pretty much the whole crux of the
matter here.

Now that he *is* on the FTSC, what groundbreaking achievements has he accomplished there, for the betterment of FidoNet?

What has any FTSC member done in the last couple of years?

Nothing, as far as I can tell.

Hey Ward. Hey Tim. Feel free to jump in here and provide some
answers!

Ward claims he generally doesn't read this area.

Yeah, well......... Ward claims lots of things...



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This guy was allowed to have a non-valid entry in the nodelist so he
could be elected to the FTSC. It's very obvious that that is not
allowed by P4 and that some "special arrangement" was made so he could
be on the FTSC.

Why is a ZC allowed to do such things? Why does/did Ward want this guy
on the FTSC so badly?

Fidonet does not and never did have any police or courts to intervene in such matters.

Fidonet assumes that those in authority will do the right thing.

In fidonet as in the real world those in authority don't always do the right thing for whatever reason.

We live with it.

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Hi Dan,

On 2026-01-03 11:36:55, you wrote to me:

Why does/did Ward want this guy on the FTSC so badly?

I'm not sure, but it might have to do with that otherwise the minimum
number of members wouldn't be reached.

Hmmmm. Not sure what the repercussions of that would be.

That's not specified in their charter:

http://ftsc.org/docs/fta-1000.003

At least they can't do what they normally do until it is resolved. Some argue they seize to exist immediately. But a charter isn't like a law. A charter can be changed by the members. But it would be best to do that before hand, then after the fact. Because they would be changing the charter from a none specified state in the current charter...

Bye, Wilfred.

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Alan Ianson wrote to Dan Clough <=-

This guy was allowed to have a non-valid entry in the nodelist so he
could be elected to the FTSC. It's very obvious that that is not
allowed by P4 and that some "special arrangement" was made so he could
be on the FTSC.

Why is a ZC allowed to do such things? Why does/did Ward want this guy
on the FTSC so badly?

Fidonet does not and never did have any police or courts to intervene
in such matters.

Fidonet assumes that those in authority will do the right thing.

In fidonet as in the real world those in authority don't always do the right thing for whatever reason.

We live with it.

That's all true.

We can still ask questions about *WHY* they are not doing the right
thing, though.

That's what I'm doing.



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Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Why does/did Ward want this guy on the FTSC so badly?

I'm not sure, but it might have to do with that otherwise the minimum
number of members wouldn't be reached.

Hmmmm. Not sure what the repercussions of that would be.

That's not specified in their charter:

http://ftsc.org/docs/fta-1000.003

At least they can't do what they normally do until it is resolved. Some argue they seize to exist immediately. But a charter isn't like a law.
A charter can be changed by the members. But it would be best to do
that before hand, then after the fact. Because they would be changing
the charter from a none specified state in the current charter...

Agreed.

The charter should be changed at the EARLIEST opportunity to define what happens in that case. No doubt.

Of course the problem is what it always is. They do nothing.

If there are any FTSC members reading this, and I'm wrong with my above statement, please enlighten me/us as to what you've accomplished in
say... the year 2025. A brief summary of the actions taken by the FTSC
last year. Thanks.




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Hi Dan,

On 2026-01-04 09:05:07, you wrote to Alan Ianson:

Why is a ZC allowed to do such things? Why does/did Ward want this guy
on the FTSC so badly?

Fidonet does not and never did have any police or courts to intervene
in such matters.

Fidonet assumes that those in authority will do the right thing.

In fidonet as in the real world those in authority don't always do the
right thing for whatever reason.

We live with it.

That's all true.

We can still ask questions about *WHY* they are not doing the right
thing, though.

The RC's can replace the ZC if they wanted to according to P4. I don't know if this ever happend in Fido history.


Bye, Wilfred.

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Hi Dan,

On 2026-01-04 09:05:07, you wrote to me:

Hmmmm. Not sure what the repercussions of that would be.

That's not specified in their charter:

http://ftsc.org/docs/fta-1000.003

At least they can't do what they normally do until it is resolved. Some
argue they seize to exist immediately. But a charter isn't like a law.
A charter can be changed by the members. But it would be best to do
that before hand, then after the fact. Because they would be changing
the charter from a none specified state in the current charter...

Agreed.

The charter should be changed at the EARLIEST opportunity to define what happens in that case. No doubt.

And/or the minimum number of members could be lowered.

Of course the problem is what it always is. They do nothing.

Indeed.

If there are any FTSC members reading this, and I'm wrong with my
above statement, please enlighten me/us as to what you've accomplished
in say... the year 2025. A brief summary of the actions taken by the
FTSC last year. Thanks.

Maybe save that for the election. It should start soon! Last year it was annouced on 5 Januari, but it took more then 2 months to come to a final result, so maybe it will start later this year? ;-)

Bye, Wilfred.

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03 Jan 2026 09:05, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

This guy was allowed to have a non-valid entry in the nodelist so he
could be elected to the FTSC. It's very obvious that that is not
allowed by P4 and that some "special arrangement" was made so he could
be on the FTSC.

Why is a ZC allowed to do such things? Why does/did Ward want this
guy on the FTSC so badly?

Why can't the potential candidate get an actual/valid (MO) node number
like anyone else would be required to do?

Now that he *is* on the FTSC, what groundbreaking achievements has he accomplished there, for the betterment of FidoNet?

If I'm not mistaken, Ward has encouraged that the FTSC consists of people that have contributed to the advancement of Fidonet, particularly FTN developers.

No doubt, Tim is one of them. Winpoint is an excellent Fidonet program, and he has been maintaining and improving it recently.

I believe that he deserves a node number so that he can be a member of the FTSC, or just because of his contribution to Fidonet. However, if he cannot (or simply doesn't want to) maintain a connectable node, there should be no problem if he is assigned a Pvt node (perhaps in a net in R24 or any other one) instead of a RIN.

Carlos

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Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Why is a ZC allowed to do such things? Why does/did Ward want this guy
on the FTSC so badly?

Fidonet does not and never did have any police or courts to intervene
in such matters.

Fidonet assumes that those in authority will do the right thing.

In fidonet as in the real world those in authority don't always do the
right thing for whatever reason.

We live with it.

That's all true.

We can still ask questions about *WHY* they are not doing the right
thing, though.

The RC's can replace the ZC if they wanted to according to P4. I don't know if this ever happend in Fido history.

Sure, they can.

Of course, many RC's, especially it seems in Zone 2, are as
absent/detached as anyone else. A good example of that is to note how
many of them even bothered to vote in the last FTSC election.



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Carlos Navarro wrote to Dan Clough <=-

This guy was allowed to have a non-valid entry in the nodelist so he
could be elected to the FTSC. It's very obvious that that is not
allowed by P4 and that some "special arrangement" was made so he could
be on the FTSC.

Why is a ZC allowed to do such things? Why does/did Ward want this
guy on the FTSC so badly?

Why can't the potential candidate get an actual/valid (MO) node number
like anyone else would be required to do?

Now that he *is* on the FTSC, what groundbreaking achievements has he accomplished there, for the betterment of FidoNet?

If I'm not mistaken, Ward has encouraged that the FTSC consists of
people that have contributed to the advancement of Fidonet,
particularly FTN developers.

Sure, and I have no problem or disagreement with that.

No doubt, Tim is one of them. Winpoint is an excellent Fidonet program, and he has been maintaining and improving it recently.

I don't use or know about Winpoint, but I recognize that as a true and valuable contribution.

I believe that he deserves a node number so that he can be a member of
the FTSC, or just because of his contribution to Fidonet. However, if
he cannot (or simply doesn't want to) maintain a connectable node,
there should be no problem if he is assigned a Pvt node (perhaps in a
net in R24 or any other one) instead of a RIN.

No doubt that he deserves a node number! That isn't really my point.
It doesn't have to be a PVT node number is what I'm saying. Especially
when that practice (PVT node) is *SPECIFICALLY* NOT ALLOWED as a
Zone/Region Independent node. See section 2.1.9 of Policy 4 on that.
You mentioned that he is a RIN, but actually it's a ZIN. Not allowed.

Either he should be a PVT node in a Network somewhere, or a ZIN with an
actual node number (not PVT). As for connectable, that's easy... It
would be a "MO" node, with no "CM" flag. Done.

So, hey Ward. How about your input on this? How do you justify this
blatant disregard for P4, as the ZC/IC...?



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04 Jan 2026 14:01, you wrote to me:

You mentioned that he is a RIN, but actually it's a ZIN. Not allowed.

Ah yes, I meant ZIN.

Carlos

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