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All nodes in R50 were fixed in this regard. So we went from 29 to 2 in this report!
This is a list of nodes with a misplaced ICM flag:
,110,Seans_Elist_Maintainer,Johnson_City_TN_USA,Sean_Dennis,-Unpublish ed-,300,ICM,XX,INA:bbs.outpostbbs.net,IBN,IFC,IFT,ITN:60177,PING,TRACE ,666,PlanStation,Khmelnitsky,Vova_Dmitrishin,-Unpublished-,300,ICM,IBN ,INA:46.63.89.115
2 lines match
,666,PlanStation,Khmelnitsky,Vova_Dmitrishin,-Unpublished-,300,ICM,IBN ,INA:46.63.89.115
Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Michiel van der Vlist <=-
,666,PlanStation,Khmelnitsky,Vova_Dmitrishin,-Unpublished-,300,ICM,IBN ,INA:46.63.89.115
That's 4624/666
Net 4624 is dead. Dialling the telephone numbers result in a recording that roughly translates to: "this number is not in use". Attempts to
make a binkp connect result in a time out.
RC46 does not respond to netmail or e-mail.
Net 4624 is dead. Dialling the telephone numbers result in a
recording that roughly translates to: "this number is not in
use". Attempts to make a binkp connect result in a time out.
RC46 does not respond to netmail or e-mail.
Sounds like Z2C should be firing some people.
Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Net 4624 is dead. Dialling the telephone numbers result in a
recording that roughly translates to: "this number is not in
use". Attempts to make a binkp connect result in a time out.
RC46 does not respond to netmail or e-mail.
Sounds like Z2C should be firing some people.
Just firing people is not going to solve the problem. Finding replacements willing and able to do the job AND acceptable to all
parties concerned in a country at war and partly occupied is next to impossible...
RC46 does not respond to netmail or e-mail.
Sounds like Z2C should be firing some people.
Just firing people is not going to solve the problem. Finding
replacements willing and able to do the job AND acceptable to
all parties concerned in a country at war and partly occupied is
next to impossible...
Okay, let's do nothing then.
If we're going to do nothing, why bother mentioning the disfunction at
all?
Doing nothing fixes nothing.
Firing people and *trying* to replace them may fix everything.
Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Dan Clough <=-
RC46 does not respond to netmail or e-mail.
Sounds like Z2C should be firing some people.
Just firing people is not going to solve the problem. Finding
replacements willing and able to do the job AND acceptable to
all parties concerned in a country at war and partly occupied is
next to impossible...
"next to impossible" != "impossible"
Okay, let's do nothing then.
Your idea, not mine.
If we're going to do nothing, why bother mentioning the disfunction at
all?
I do not propose "we" do nothing.
Doing nothing fixes nothing.
Then why propose it?
Firing people and *trying* to replace them may fix everything.
That's the wrong order. Replacements have to be found before firing the ones in position.
Fixing the problem of a disfunctional RC is obviously the job of the
ZC.
I was just pointing out the hurdles in this particular situation.
Maybe the ZC could place the region in custody. For starters he could remove the nets that are obviously dead. (4614 and 4624)
And move Moldova (net 469) out of region 46. It is not enirely dead.
The host is gone but 469/122 is still on-line. He could be moved to Region 56. (Z2 catch all)
Sounds like Z2C should be firing some people.
Just firing people is not going to solve the problem. Finding
replacements willing and able to do the job AND acceptable to
all parties concerned in a country at war and partly occupied
is next to impossible...
"next to impossible" != "impossible"
You're replying to what YOU said, not what I said.
Okay, let's do nothing then.
Your idea, not mine.
Maybe all you Euro-boys are like this? This sounds like the twisting, redirecting, diversionary tactics of Beeeeeorn or Ward.
If we're going to do nothing, why bother mentioning the disfunction
at all?
I do not propose "we" do nothing.
Well, yes, you did.
Doing nothing fixes nothing.
Then why propose it?
It was /sarcasm/. I guessed you missed that.
Firing people and *trying* to replace them may fix everything.
That's the wrong order. Replacements have to be found before
firing the ones in position.
No, they don't. You lose nothing by firing non-existant people. Fire them and then offer the job to someone.
Fixing the problem of a disfunctional RC is obviously the job of
the ZC.
Yup, as I said. But he does nothing, as usual.
Perhaps he's the one that needs to be fired.
I was just pointing out the hurdles in this particular
situation. Maybe the ZC could place the region in custody. For
starters he could remove the nets that are obviously dead. (4614
and 4624)
Sure, except for the fact that the ZC doesn't do his job.
And move Moldova (net 469) out of region 46. It is not enirely
dead. The host is gone but 469/122 is still on-line. He could be
moved to Region 56. (Z2 catch all)
Sure, except..... well, you know.
I am just pointing out that there are TWO problems here - a
non-existant RC, and an (effectively) non-existant ZC.
Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Dan Clough <=-
Firing people and *trying* to replace them may fix everything.
That's the wrong order. Replacements have to be found before
firing the ones in position.
No, they don't. You lose nothing by firing non-existant people. Fire them and then offer the job to someone.
That does not work in Fidonet where jobs are linked to a chalm in a technical chain. Removing a region entry or replacing it with a non-functional dummy will break the nodelist.
Fixing the problem of a disfunctional RC is obviously the job of
the ZC.
Yup, as I said. But he does nothing, as usual.
That you do not see it does not mean it is not there.
Perhaps he's the one that needs to be fired.
Firing the ZC does not solve the problem of a non functional RC.
I was just pointing out the hurdles in this particular
situation. Maybe the ZC could place the region in custody. For
starters he could remove the nets that are obviously dead. (4614
and 4624)
Sure, except for the fact that the ZC doesn't do his job.
Ever heard of silent diplomacy?
And move Moldova (net 469) out of region 46. It is not enirely
dead. The host is gone but 469/122 is still on-line. He could be
moved to Region 56. (Z2 catch all)
Sure, except..... well, you know.
No, I do not know.
I am just pointing out that there are TWO problems here - a
non-existant RC, and an (effectively) non-existant ZC.
ZC2 exists and responds to netmail.
Net 4624 is dead. Dialling the telephone numbers result in a
recording that roughly translates to: "this number is not in
use". Attempts to make a binkp connect result in a time out.
RC46 does not respond to netmail or e-mail.
Sounds like Z2C should be firing some people.
Net 4624 is dead. Dialling the telephone numbers result in a
recording that roughly translates to: "this number is not in
use". Attempts to make a binkp connect result in a time out.
RC46 does not respond to netmail or e-mail.
Sounds like Z2C should be firing some people.
Just firing people is not going to solve the problem. Finding
replacements willing and able to do the job AND acceptable to all
parties concerned in a country at war and partly occupied is next to
impossible...
Okay, let's do nothing then.
If we're going to do nothing, why bother mentioning the disfunction at all?
Doing nothing fixes nothing. Firing people and *trying* to replace them may fix everything. But... let's do nothing. It's easier that way.
It was acceptable a few years ago and I don't see the problem for now. However, the most point is no connection ability across r46.
reasons. For this point, I fully support Ward's decision to wait for
the logical conclusion of current events in the world.
It was acceptable a few years ago and I don't see the problem for now.
However, the most point is no connection ability across r46.
I think the none existing nets should be removed. If the RC can't/won't do it, the ZC can do it for him imho...
The remaining nets can also be moved to R56, if a (replacement) RC
can't be found that is willing to do the "job".
The remaining nets can also be moved to R56, if a (replacement) RC
can't be found that is willing to do the "job".
No. This may lead to confusion in these networks and disruption of connectivity.
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