Hello All,

I've made a change in nntpserv.c:

WRAP_LENGTH = 79

To test, I've read a bunch of messages in both slrn and Thunderbird, and
posted a couple times with both, also (though I don't think posting would
have much to do with this setting). Things seem better than they were
before. Feel free to give it a try if you're seeing some wierd wrapping
issues. :)

Regards,
Nick

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Hello, Nicholas!

Wednesday February 28 2024 19:54, from Nicholas Boel -> All:

I've made a change in nntpserv.c:

Unless I am missing something, there have been a couple of patches to jamnntpd/smapinntpd announced in this echo conference but none of them have landed on GitHub.

Where do you guys commit your changes?
Maybe https://github.com/ftnapps/jamnntpd - ame committed 8 years ago
Maybe https://github.com/ftnapps/smapinntpd/ - ame committed 11 years ago

Best Regards,
Nil
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On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 03:55:28 -0500, Nil Alexandrov -> Nicholas Boel wrote:

Unless I am missing something, there have been a couple of patches to jamnntpd/smapinntpd announced in this echo conference but none of them have
landed on GitHub.

Where do you guys commit your changes?
Maybe https://github.com/ftnapps/jamnntpd - ame committed 8 years ago Maybe https://github.com/ftnapps/smapinntpd/ - ame committed 11 years ago

So far on our own personal systems, while working out some bugs and/or limitations. I'm not sure anyone alive right now was given any commit
access to either one of those links.

Most of us basically built from one of those above links, and have added patches together in discussion here, and maybe a bit via netmail.

Problem is, I don't believe any of us are self proclaiming ourselves as a programmer of any kind, so (in my opinion) we have been working together
this way and has worked so far.

Are we somehow able to gain access to either of those github sites if the original maintainer has passed away?

Regards,
Nick

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On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 01:54:22 -0600, Nicholas Boel -> All wrote:

Hello All,

I've made a change in nntpserv.c:

WRAP_LENGTH = 79

To test, I've read a bunch of messages in both slrn and Thunderbird, and posted a couple times with both, also (though I don't think posting would have much to do with this setting). Things seem better than they were before. Feel free to give it a try if you're seeing some wierd wrapping issues. :)

Nevermind this. Back to WRAP_LENGTH = 72 when it started making lines I
quoted too long.

Also just realized I had changed the mailnews.wraplength setting in
Thunderbird early on to 75 columns when it was 72 to begin with. So I
reverted that as well in hopes that it fixes the original issue.

Regards,
Nick

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On 01.03.2024 3:50, Nicholas Boel wrote:

NB> Hello All,

NB> I've made a change in nntpserv.c:

NB> WRAP_LENGTH = 79

NB> To test, I've read a bunch of messages in both slrn and Thunderbird, and
NB> posted a couple times with both, also (though I don't think posting would
NB> have much to do with this setting). Things seem better than they were
NB> before. Feel free to give it a try if you're seeing some wierd wrapping
NB> issues. :)

Nevermind this. Back to WRAP_LENGTH = 72 when it started making lines I quoted too long.

I played with this once, set it to 990. It helps, but it created issues with quoting. That was before the fixes of Carlos. I'll try again. :)

'Tommi

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29/02/2024 3:55, Nil Alexandrov -> Nicholas Boel:

Unless I am missing something, there have been a couple of patches to jamnntpd/smapinntpd announced in this echo conference but none of them have landed on GitHub.

Where do you guys commit your changes?
Maybe https://github.com/ftnapps/jamnntpd - ame committed 8 years ago Maybe https://github.com/ftnapps/smapinntpd/ - ame committed 11 years ago

I'm maintaining my modified JamNNTPd version at this fork: https://github.com/cnb/jamnntpd
Check commits to see latest patches.

Carlos

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On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 20:55:28 -0500, Nil Alexandrov -> Nicholas Boel wrote:

Hello, Nicholas!

Wednesday February 28 2024 19:54, from Nicholas Boel -> All:

 NB>> I've made a change in nntpserv.c:

Unless I am missing something, there have been a couple of patches to jamnntpd/smapinntpd announced in this echo conference but none of them have landed on GitHub.

Where do you guys commit your changes?
Maybe https://github.com/ftnapps/jamnntpd - ame committed 8 years ago Maybe https://github.com/ftnapps/smapinntpd/ - ame committed 11 years ago

Thanks for getting the ball rolling. You made me get off my ass and figure out github. I had only known 'clone' and 'pull' until recently.

I have forked them both, and they are currently matching each other with patches and features. Please check the CHANGELOG to see what's been done:

https://github.com/axxisd/jamnntpd
https://github.com/axxisd/smapinntpd

Regards,
Nick

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On 15 Mar 2024, Nicholas Boel said the following...

I have forked them both, and they are currently matching each other with patches and features. Please check the CHANGELOG to see what's been done:

https://github.com/axxisd/jamnntpd
https://github.com/axxisd/smapinntpd

This is awesome, thank you! :)


Jay

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On 15 Mar 2024, Nicholas Boel said the following...

https://github.com/axxisd/jamnntpd
https://github.com/axxisd/smapinntpd

Would it be possible to include:

fidoconfig2jamnntpd.pl
checkgroups.pl
echomailjam2hpt.pl

In these repositories as well?


Jay

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Hello, Nicholas!

Friday March 15 2024 17:21, from Nicholas Boel -> Nil Alexandrov:

Unless I am missing something, there have been a couple of
patches to jamnntpd/smapinntpd announced in this echo conference
but none of them have landed on GitHub.

Where do you guys commit your changes?
Maybe https://github.com/ftnapps/jamnntpd - ame committed 8 years
ago Maybe https://github.com/ftnapps/smapinntpd/ - ame committed
11 years ago

Thanks for getting the ball rolling. You made me get off my ass and
figure out github. I had only known 'clone' and 'pull' until recently.

It is never late to learn new things, especially if you are coming from CVS or SVN or whatever world. Cause the whole world is now on git as an industry standard.

I have forked them both, and they are currently matching each other
with patches and features. Please check the CHANGELOG to see what's
been done:
https://github.com/axxisd/jamnntpd
https://github.com/axxisd/smapinntpd

Ah, it is not about repo anymore, it is more about a commitment to be a maintainer for both projects. :-)

Though, it would be more fun if you can merge them in a way that there is a #ifdef use SMAPI or jamlib, cause the rest should be exactly the same.
As a sanity check, if you process NNTP requests differently, then you are basically failed. This is the same code which had forked worked at some point and later continued in a separate directions.

Best Regards,
Nil
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On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 20:01:24 -0400, Jay Harris -> Nicholas Boel wrote:

 NB>> https://github.com/axxisd/jamnntpd
 NB>> https://github.com/axxisd/smapinntpd

This is awesome, thank you!  :)

Future plans include expanding on more user defined login options. 'notearline' was my first test to see if I could do it. Now that I know I can, the others should be easier. :)

Regards,
Nick

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On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 20:11:24 -0400, Jay Harris -> Nicholas Boel wrote:

Would it be possible to include:

fidoconfig2jamnntpd.pl
checkgroups.pl
echomailjam2hpt.pl

In these repositories as well?

Check the 'util' subdirectory, as it is mentioned in the CHANGELOG. :)

Regards,
Nick

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On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 03:12:22 +0300, Nil Alexandrov -> Nicholas Boel wrote:

Thanks for getting the ball rolling. You made me get off my ass
figure out github. I had only known 'clone' and 'pull' until
recently.

It is never late to learn new things, especially if you are coming
from CVS or SVN or whatever world. Cause the whole world is now on
git as an industry standard.

I didn't come from CVS or SVN, I came from never really programming before, so never had anything I needed to 'commit', 'push', 'rebase', etc. It was just a bit of a learning curve to go in the opposite direction from just being an end user to a maintainer.

I have forked them both, and they are currently matching each
with patches and features. Please check the CHANGELOG to see
what's been done:

https://github.com/axxisd/jamnntpd
https://github.com/axxisd/smapinntpd

Ah, it is not about repo anymore, it is more about a commitment to be
a maintainer for both projects. :-)

Kind of, I guess. The code hasn't been touched since like 2013 (Maybe some spelling errors and dates changed till about 2016). So my commitment is really only to myself, but may as well share it since they both fix quite a few things that were outstanding bugs.

Though, it would be more fun if you can merge them in a way that
there is a #ifdef use SMAPI or jamlib, cause the rest should be
exactly the same. As a sanity check, if you process NNTP requests differently, then you are basically failed. This is the same code
which had forked worked at some point and later continued in a
separate directions.

First, I don't think there is really any good reason for an option, as smapi supports JAM, Squish, and MSG formats, and is far more up to date than jamlib. Also, jamlib isn't even 64bit compatible.

Second, it would probably require a LOT more than just an #ifdef. Both programs are definitely *not* the same as far as code goes. They're similar, but quite a bit different at the same time. The most recent feature I added to Smapinntpd first, and when I ported it over to Jamnntpd it wasn't as easy as I had thought it would be. Then again, I don't really consider myself a programmer, but it definitely wasn't just a direct copy/paste. Some lines needed to be changed completely (usually lines utilizing jamlib or smapi, of course).

For now, if I add a feature to one, I will most likely add it to the other as well. Then I will make sure to try to fix my mistakes and typos. :)

- Jamlib working on 64bit without the -m32 option would be nice.

- Including smapi with smapinntpd and it all compiling together in one shot would also be nice (I tried once already, and failed), so one doesn't have to go out of their way to install dependencies. I will try this again at some point.

It's a fun little project to cure some times of boredom, that's for sure.

Regards,
Nick

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On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 20:11:24 -0400, Jay Harris -> Nicholas Boel wrote:

Would it be possible to include:

fidoconfig2jamnntpd.pl
checkgroups.pl
echomailjam2hpt.pl

In these repositories as well?

My bad. jamnntpd was the last one I was working on, and I added them there. I realized I hadn't added them to smapinntpd yet. Should be there now. :)

Regards,
Nick

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On Friday March 15 2024, Nicholas Boel said the following...

My bad. jamnntpd was the last one I was working on, and I added them there. I realized I hadn't added them to smapinntpd yet. Should be
there now. :)

Yup, I see it there now, thanks so much.


Also, in my smapinntpd.allow I had just one uncommented line:

127.0.0.1

When I upgraded to this version I was getting "Access Denied" messages, assuming due to the IPv6 support.

Changing the line to ::ffff:127.0.0.1 didn't seem to help, changing it to *127.0.0.1 seemed to do the trick.

Not sure if you would want to include that as an example for IPv4 addresses in that file? I haven't looked, but I'm wondering if the code reading smapinntpd.allow doesn't recognize the : character.


Jay

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Hi Jay.

16 Mar 24 14:18, you wrote to Nicholas Boel:

Changing the line to ::ffff:127.0.0.1 didn't seem to help, changing it to *127.0.0.1 seemed to do the trick.

Good to know! I've been running the ipv6-patched version for years, but never limited the access via the .allow file. "*" there only. :)

'Tommi

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