• Question on FTS-0001

    From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Richard Menedetter on Tue Oct 17 00:22:43 2023
    It's as easy to fix as fixing the bugs in MS-DOS
    -- abandon it for better software.

    You mean use FreeDOS? ;)

    LOL! Yeah, that's probably a better alternative. More easily available is the dos emulator in Windows (CMD.EXE).


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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Björn Felten on Mon Oct 16 21:12:00 2023
    Bj”rn Felten wrote to Richard Menedetter <=-

    It's as easy to fix as fixing the bugs in MS-DOS
    -- abandon it for better software.

    You mean use FreeDOS? ;)

    LOL! Yeah, that's probably a better alternative. More easily
    available is the dos emulator in Windows (CMD.EXE).

    How is that "more easily available" than FreeDOS?

    I don't have any computers running Windoze here, and don't want any.



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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Dan Clough on Tue Oct 17 18:10:15 2023
    How is that "more easily available" than FreeDOS?

    Microsoft's Windows was the dominant desktop operating system (OS) worldwide as of July 2023, with a market share of around 70 percent.


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  • From Vitaliy Aksyonov@1:104/117 to Bj?rn Felten on Tue Oct 17 10:22:24 2023
    Hello Bj?rn.

    17 Oct 23 18:10, you wrote to Dan Clough:

    How is that "more easily available" than FreeDOS?

    Microsoft's Windows was the dominant desktop operating system (OS) worldwide as of July 2023, with a market share of around 70 percent.

    You're information is outdated. In July 2023 it was:

    - Android - 40%
    - MS Windows - 29%
    - iOS - 17%

    and others.

    Vitaliy

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Vitaliy Aksyonov on Tue Oct 17 22:33:57 2023
    Vitaliy,

    You're information is outdated. In July 2023 it was:

    - Android - 40%
    - MS Windows - 29%
    - iOS - 17%

    and others.

    Stay away from the cheap vodka ... 8-)

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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Vitaliy Aksyonov on Tue Oct 17 19:47:00 2023
    Vitaliy Aksyonov wrote to Bj?rn Felten <=-

    17 Oct 23 18:10, you wrote to Dan Clough:

    How is that "more easily available" than FreeDOS?

    Microsoft's Windows was the dominant desktop operating system (OS) worldwide as of July 2023, with a market share of around 70 percent.

    You're information is outdated. In July 2023 it was:

    - Android - 40%
    - MS Windows - 29%
    - iOS - 17%

    Well..... he did say *desktop* operating system.

    How many desktops run Android...?

    That's right.



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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Björn Felten on Tue Oct 17 19:52:00 2023
    Bj”rn Felten wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    How is that "more easily available" than FreeDOS?

    Microsoft's Windows was the dominant desktop operating system
    (OS) worldwide as of July 2023, with a market share of around 70
    percent.

    That may be true, I don't really know. My guess is that it's something
    less than that.

    What I do know is that to actually have/use that OS, you have to either purchase it, or break the law and use a pirated copy. To use FreeDOS, one simply has to download it and use it.

    So, I ask again - how is Windoze more easily available than FreeDOS? Literally *ANYONE* can have a legal copy of FreeDOS within 2 minutes of reading this message.

    I therefore declare your claim to be false/wrong.

    Case closed. NEXT!






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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Dan Clough on Wed Oct 18 07:34:21 2023
    Dan Clough -> Bj”rn Felten skrev 2023-10-18 02:52:
    What I do know is that to actually have/use that OS, you have to either purchase it,

    Or you can purchase a desktop computer. When was the last time you bought a desktop computer, other than an Apple variant, that did *not* have Windows pre-installed?


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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to deon on Tue Oct 17 23:24:08 2023
    Re: Question on FTS-0001
    By: deon to Rob Swindell on Tue Oct 17 2023 08:59 am

    Re: Question on FTS-0001
    By: Rob Swindell to Andrew Leary on Sun Oct 15 2023 02:03 pm

    FTS-1 doesn't deal with echomail. If any FTSC doc needed "correction" (I'd say "clarification") in this regard, it'd be FTS-4.

    I'd disagree.

    The norm/rules for netmail and echomail are different.

    The question that I started was (and I'll paraphrase) what was the origNet/origNode represent in a packed message header.

    The answers I've seen are:
    * Its the source message address,
    * Its the last hop's address

    It should be known as one or the other.

    The english description "orig..." implies it is from the source of the message, ie: the originator, but convention seems to be that it represents the last hop.

    That should be clarified and updated.

    FTS-1 doesn't deal with echomail. You can wish it did, but it just doesn't.
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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Björn Felten on Wed Oct 18 09:38:02 2023
    Or you can purchase a desktop computer. When was the last time you
    bought a desktop computer, other than an Apple variant, that did *not*
    have Windows pre-installed?

    I have never in my life bought a desktop computer, prefer to build 'm myself that way I know what's in it, what it does and how to repair it.

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  • From deon@3:633/509 to Rob Swindell on Wed Oct 18 19:04:45 2023
    Re: Question on FTS-0001
    By: Rob Swindell to deon on Tue Oct 17 2023 11:24 pm

    FTS-1 doesn't deal with echomail. You can wish it did, but it just doesn't.

    I dont wish it did.

    FTS-0001 talks about packed messages - which is what I'm talking about.

    I'm not sure what your refering to though...


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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Björn Felten on Wed Oct 18 10:36:39 2023
    Hey Björn!

    When was the last time you bought a desktop computer,

    Fairly recently except I call them PCs, sometimes servers when appropriate.

    other than an Apple variant,

    Never. Vastly overpriced label makers.

    that did *not* have Windows pre-installed?

    That never happened. I did have a laptop that had Windows pre-installed but it never stood a chance and it never got booted before the drive was wiped out and replaced with Linux. I still have it but hardly ever use it. The last thing I installed on there was the latest Slackware-current. It needs upgrading. I figure linux-6.6 which should be soon.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Björn Felten on Wed Oct 18 07:41:00 2023
    Bj”rn Felten wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Dan Clough -> Bj”rn Felten skrev 2023-10-18 02:52:
    What I do know is that to actually have/use that OS, you have to either purchase it,

    Or you can purchase a desktop computer.

    Okay, so even though you won't say it, you do concede that getting/using FreeDOS is indeed more readily available.

    When was the last time you bought a desktop computer, other than an
    Apple variant, that did *not* have Windows pre-installed?

    Probably around 1996 or so. I don't buy desktop computers. I buy the
    pieces and assemble them myself, and Windoze is not part of that.

    Game. Set. Match.



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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to deon on Wed Oct 18 17:46:36 2023
    Re: Question on FTS-0001
    By: deon to Rob Swindell on Wed Oct 18 2023 07:04 pm

    Re: Question on FTS-0001
    By: Rob Swindell to deon on Tue Oct 17 2023 11:24 pm

    FTS-1 doesn't deal with echomail. You can wish it did, but it just doesn't.

    I dont wish it did.

    FTS-0001 talks about packed messages - which is what I'm talking about.

    I'm not sure what your refering to though...

    FTS-1 talks about packed *netmail* messages, which are different than packed *echomail* messages.
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