Hello Everybody,

Give the Devil his due, as he sure does know how to get his way.
At least, according to Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Pietro
Parolin (in reference to Hamas and the IDF in Gaza) -

"The two situations certainly have in common the fact that they have dangerously widened beyond any acceptable limit, that they cannot be
resolved, that they have repercussions in different countries, and
that no solution can be found without serious negotiation."

Does the Israeli Prime Minister negotiate with terrorists?
Does the leader of Hamas negotiate with terrorists?
Does the President of the United States negotatiate with terrorists?
Does any other leader in the world negoatiate with terrorists?

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Who is to say who is fighting for freedom, and who is fighting
for something else? What exactly qualifies as "freedom? Is it
"freedom of" or "freedom from"? Perhaps it is none of the above,
as freedom could be just another word for nothing left to lose.

Cardinal Parolin claims warring parties should have "the courage
to negotiate, which is never to surrender." His words, not mine.
Of course, he is mimicking what Pope Francis has said the other
day, expressing his own desire for Ukraine to "raise the white
flag" - without expressly telling Ukrainians to surrender their
own land to Mother Russia.

Carinal Parolin then went on to say which side should raise the
white flag first, as "It should be the aggressors who cease fire
first and then the opening of negotiations."

Oh, my. Russia invades Crimea (a part of Ukraine) in 2014. And
then claimed Crimea as part of its own land. With no negotiations
at all with any other country. And then, Russia went back for more,
in 2022, invading more sections of Ukraine. With no negotiations
with any other country.

And still, Cardinal Parolin continues his mantra, claiming "...
negoatiating is not weakness but strength. It's not surrender but
courage."

My, my. The Vatican Secretary of State most certainly is deluded.
So is the Pope, who is always dressed in white, as if to make himself
appear innocent of all that is going on around him.

It doesn't take much research to find out when and where the white
flag principle began. It has been around for centuries, in various
cultures around the world. Easily understood by all what it means.

In fact, the white flag was written into the Geneva Conventions
in the 19th century as the official international symbol of surrender.
So how could the Vatican Secretary of State, and the Pope, not know
the very basic of the meaning of the white flag? It means SURRENDER!

According to the Geneva Conventions, it is illegal to feign surrender
with a white flag. Can anybody in their right mind imagine any warring
party faking it in order to keep themselves from getting slaughtered?

The Pope and all his Swiss Guards must be mad. Truly mad. Stalin
was right when he asked the question - "How many battalions does the
pope have?"

Now we know why the Pope never excommunicated Hitler.

The white flag is still the international standard and it is used
both in combat situations and popular culture. So when did it come
to mean something other than "surrender"?

For Life,
Lee

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Hi, Lee Lofaso!
I read your message from 13.03.2024 06:36

LL> It doesn't take much research to find out when and where the
LL> white flag principle began. It has been around for centuries,
LL> in various cultures around the world. Easily understood by all
LL> what it means.
LL> In fact, the white flag was written into the Geneva Conventions
LL> in the 19th century as the official international symbol of
LL> surrender. So how could the Vatican Secretary of State, and the
LL> Pope, not know ??the very basic of the meaning of the white
LL> flag? It means SURRENDER!

Surrender can be different. If less idiots have been in Kiev they could
have ordered the Ukrainian army not to do a single shot. And Russian
troops also would have no reasons to shoot. It would have been a funny situation when Russian troops could let defile along Ukrainian roads
having behind, on the right, on left the Ukrainian guns constantly
connected with Russian army temple. It could have been a funny bloodless
war company in humans history, and the resolution of the conflict could
be found peacefully, especially while it was perfectly obvious that
making slaves from Ukrainians was not Russia's aim... Well, if less
idiots have been in Kiev... who valued human lives of Ukrainians.

Bye, Lee!
Alexander Koryagin
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Alexander,

It's good to see you're alive and doing well...

And Russian troops also would have no reasons to shoot.

Russian troops, as it was, had no reason to start firing in the first place, it was them that did and the only thing they had coming their way was defensive fire.

... especially while it was perfectly obvious that
making slaves from Ukrainians was not Russia's aim...

Hmmm ... you must've seen the Russian version of FoxNews.

Putin has repeatedly declared that the Ukrainian state had no historical reason for being, it should be wiped away ... erased from the pages of history ... Military annexation in several steps ... first Crimea to see how the West would react, then Ukraine, then the Baltic states. then Poland...

The only reason how Donald Trump could become elected was Russian intervention because Putin knew he was a hidden ally, and it was all part of the grand scheme ... and it continues ....

The Americans need to understand their Presidential elections this year are not about who's the better President for the USA (because ... really ... nobody is served well by gerontocracy) ... it's about the de-stabilisation of NATO, undermining the upport and survival of Ukraine and enabling the expansionist dreams of a handful of egoists in Moscow.

Slaves? You have become the slave .. sir.

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Hello Alexander,

It doesn't take much research to find out when and where the
white flag principle began. It has been around for centuries,
in various cultures around the world. Easily understood by all
what it means.

Easily understood is a claim, but not an empty one. Which type
of claim makes all the difference in the world. Which is why there
are only three of them (in someone else's territory) -
* a legal claim
* an emotional claim
* an accidental claim

So which type of claim(s) are all these differing warring parties
talking about? Could be all of them for all we know.

In fact, the white flag was written into the Geneva Conventions
in the 19th century as the official international symbol of
surrender. So how could the Vatican Secretary of State, and the
Pope, not know ??the very basic of the meaning of the white
flag? It means SURRENDER!

Surrender can be different.

In an interview recorded last month with Swiss broadcaster RSI
the Pope used the phrase "the courage of the white flag" as he
argued in favor of Ukraine throwing in the towel in surrender
to its nemesis - without saying out loud who that nemesis is.

If less idiots have been in Kiev they could have ordered the Ukrainian army
not to do a single shot.

The Vatican Secretary of State tried to clarify the Pope's
remarks by blaming it all on Russia, knowing full well that
no Russian soldier worth his salt would ever open fire on
innocent men, women, children, and babies. Idiots, maybe.
Except only by mistake.

And then he went on to blame both Hamas and Israel for causing
the mess in Gaza, claiming both sides should surrender.

Sometimes I wonder about the sanity of theologians.

And Russian troops also would have no reasons to shoot.

That is the truth. The whole truth. And nothing but the truth.

It would have been a funny situation when Russian troops could let defile along Ukrainian roads having behind, on the right, on left the Ukrainian guns constantly connected with Russian army temple.

They rolled out the red carpet in Hollywood the other night
for the Oscar Awards. With a comedian from Ukraine leading the
way. Won the award for best documentary about a town that no
longer exists.

It could have been a funny bloodless war company in humans history, and the
resolution of the conflict could be found peacefully,

The film "Oppenheimer" also won a bunch of awards. But Opie wanted
a different ending, with a demonstration to show the Emperor his true intentions were far different from what Harry Truman wanted. What
Harry Truman wanted was gooks going up in a giant fireball.

especially while it was perfectly obvious that making slaves from Ukrainians
was not Russia's aim...

What was the purpose of dropping two atomic bombs on Japanese
cities? How many innocents lost their lives as a result? Truman
hated Asians. Especially Japanese. But that was not his main
reason. Nobody wants to say it, but we all know the real reason.

Hint: The Japanese military had offered a total surrender a full
month before atomic bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki,

Well, if less idiots have been in Kiev... who valued human lives of Ukrainians.

"Many young people, many young people go to die (in war). Let's
pray to the Lord to give us the grace to overcome this madness of
war, which is always a defeat." ~Pope Francis, 13 March 2024

Russian President Vladimir Putin then contratulated Pope Francis
on the 11th anniversary of his election as pope.

For Life,
Lee

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x) Thursday Mar 14, 2024, 08:59. alexander koryagin ÄÄ Lee Lofaso.

It doesn't take much research to find out when and where the
white flag principle began. It has been around for centuries,
in various cultures around the world. Easily understood by all
what it means.
In fact, the white flag was written into the Geneva Conventions
in the 19th century as the official international symbol of
surrender. So how could the Vatican Secretary of State, and the
Pope, not know ??the very basic of the meaning of the white
flag? It means SURRENDER!

Surrender can be different. If less idiots have been in Kiev they could have ordered the Ukrainian army not to do a single shot.

If less idiots have been in Kremlin they could have ordered the Russian army not to enter Crimea and other parts of Ukraine in 2014...

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Hi, Ward Dossche!
I read your message from 14.03.2024 11:16

WD> It's good to see you're alive and doing well...

The same can be said to FIDO in general. ;)

ak>> And Russian troops also would have no reasons to shoot.

WD> Russian troops, as it was, had no reason to start firing in the
WD> first place, it was them that did and the only thing they had
WD> coming their way was defensive fire.

I have told you my point of view. For the new Ukrainian authority there
were two variants. Do as I had said -- just follow invaded Russian
troops, do not fight with them and save army, save hundreds of thousands
of human lives, don't obey Putin's orders of course. As the second
variant -- for those who forgot what a war is -- to fight with Russia as
a ram does with an iron gates, until the end, without any hope to defeat
this country, and lose hundreds of thousands people.

For the first variant Ukrainian president must be a shrewd person, not a
fool psychopath. Although, the clown is always such a person. And people
must know it when they elect such people to power.

ak>> ... especially while it was perfectly obvious that making slaves
ak>> from Ukrainians was not Russia's aim...

WD> Hmmm... you must've seen the Russian version of FoxNews.

The defence of people in Russian part of Ukraine (its east and south),
who has not accepted the unlawful coup in Kiev in 2014 has still been
the main aim of Russia. These people have had full right do not
recognize the new Kiev's authority and fight for their infringed rights.
They have Putin as a defender, they have no choice if they hope to
continue speaking Russian and be Russians. Nationality is a property of
soul, not the place of birth or orders.

WD> Putin has repeatedly declared that the Ukrainian state had no
WD> historical reason for being, it should be wiped away... erased from
WD> the pages of history... Military annexation in several steps...

Everything was OK until nationalists violently came to power in 2014.
Until that date the relations between Ukraine and Russia were OK and
nobody could imagine the war, even in nightmare. Violence caused violence.

WD> first Crimea to see how the West would react, then Ukraine, then
WD> the Baltic states. then Poland...

As for other states Russia has no motive and reason to attack them,
unless these countries hold military aggression towards Russia.

WD> The only reason how Donald Trump could become elected was Russian
WD> intervention because Putin knew he was a hidden ally, and it was
WD> all part of the grand scheme... and it continues....

Old fairy tales of democrats. Slender and dirt in a usual way of
political fight. I don't defend Trump. For me an old infirm fellow is
safe and better for the world than aggressive person with unstable
mentality, who looks like a kettle about to boil.

Bye, Ward!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hi, Alex Shuman!
I read your message from 15.03.2024 03:46

LL>>> It doesn't take much research to find out when and where the
LL>>> white flag principle began. It has been around for centuries, in
LL>>> various cultures around the world. Easily understood by all what
LL>>> it means. In fact, the white flag was written into the Geneva
LL>>> Conventions in the 19th century as the official international
LL>>> symbol of surrender. So how could the Vatican Secretary of State,
LL>>> and the Pope, not know?? the very basic of the meaning of the
LL>>> white flag? It means SURRENDER!
ak>> Surrender can be different. If less idiots have been in Kiev they
ak>> could have ordered the Ukrainian army not to do a single shot.

AS> If less idiots have been in Kremlin they could have ordered the
AS> Russian army not to enter Crimea and other parts of Ukraine in
AS> 2014...

Violation of law -- that is the main reason of the present day havoc in Ukraine. It is a lesson for all the world.
Lawful, elected President of Ukraine had been outthrown by the mob,
despite the fact that the majority of Ukrainians elected him. This event
could not pass without consequence. As I said before here -- the people
who elected the outthrown President from Crimea, southern and eastern
Ukraine had full right to be outraged, do not accept new authority in
Kiev and even fight against it, especially when they became the target
of the military suppression by the Ukrainian army. Russia could not stay
away, whoever was in power there, unless it lost conscience and proud
not defending those Russians in Ukraine.

Bye, Alex!
Alexander Koryagin
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Alex,

Lawful, elected President of Ukraine had been outthrown by the mob,

The Tsar was thrown out by the mob ...

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x) Friday Mar 15, 2024, 09:44. alexander koryagin ÄÄ Alex Shuman.

Surrender can be different. If less idiots have been in Kiev they
could have ordered the Ukrainian army not to do a single shot.

If less idiots have been in Kremlin they could have ordered the
Russian army not to enter Crimea and other parts of Ukraine in
2014...

Lawful, elected President of Ukraine had been outthrown by the mob,

No, it was revolution, after he ran away from his people.

could not pass without consequence. As I said before here -- the people who elected the outthrown President from Crimea, southern and eastern Ukraine had full right to be outraged, do not accept new authority in
Kiev and even fight against it, especially when they became the target
of the military suppression by the Ukrainian army.

It was not the native people, it was paramilitary Russian groups, then Russian army.

Russia could not stay away, whoever was in power there, unless it
lost conscience and proud not defending those Russians in Ukraine.

They could have just accepted all those Russians back, not to invade foreign country.

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Hello, alexander!

Friday March 15 2024 09:25, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

I have told you my point of view. For the new Ukrainian authority

You only say what the Russian state allows, otherwise you will be arrested for your statements in Fidonet, will be beaten for a long time during interrogations, and you may die in prison. That's all there is to know about the supporters of Russian politics in Ukraine.

You cannot even accept that Russian army invaded Eastern Urkaine in 2014 - because Russians police is not just beating prisoners, they like to rape prisoners using some handy stick.

Our country became a madman's dream :(

Best regards,
dp.

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The ones who target civilians are not partisans but terrorists.

Agreed. Have you said about the butchery of the civilians and thousands
of children in Gaza by Israeli bombing? ;-\

The only confirmed numbers are the Israeli victims of the raid which caused all this.

The numbers of Hamas, unverified, are just as reliable as Putins ...

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Hi, Ward Dossche!
I read your message from 27.03.2024 10:08

ak>> Agreed. Have you said about the butchery of the civilians
ak>> and thousands of children in Gaza by Israeli bombing? ;-\
WD>
WD> The only confirmed numbers are the Israeli victims of the raid
WD> which caused all this.
WD> The numbers of Hamas, unverified, are just as reliable as
WD> Putins ...

Multiple collapsed multy-story appartments as well as multiple mass
graves keep dead bodies well. For the he Hague trial. All people saw the criminal bombing in live reporting by Al-Jazira. Israel will answer for
its hideous crimes in Gaza. If you are a Jew you are a bad Jew defending
such a crime.

Bye, Ward!
Alexander Koryagin
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Multiple collapsed multy-story appartments as well as multiple mass
graves keep dead bodies well.

It looks similar to what is happening in Ukaraine.

Civilian buildings and infrastructure under attack by the invasion forces contantly.

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Multiple collapsed multy-story appartments as well as multiple mass
graves keep dead bodies well. For the he Hague trial. All people saw the criminal bombing in live reporting by Al-Jazira. Israel will answer for
its hideous crimes in Gaza. If you are a Jew you are a bad Jew defending such a crime.

The Hamas-numbers are irrealistic, simple. If not independently verified there's little value to be attached ...

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x) Wednesday Mar 27, 2024, 09:02. alexander koryagin ÄÄ Alex Shuman.

if somebody suffers from senility. And every nation has
right to fight with occupants, as they said me. When the
occupant complains about nasty partisans it sounds funny.

The ones who target civilians are not partisans but terrorists.

Agreed. Have you said about the butchery of the civilians and thousands
of children in Gaza by Israeli bombing? ;-\

I doubt Israel targeted civilians.

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x) Wednesday Mar 27, 2024, 09:22. alexander koryagin ÄÄ Alex Shuman.

Well, they either could go to Russia or accept their
Ukrainian citizenship, not to invite Russia to start a
colonial war. Also, don't mix Russian-speaking people
with Russian citizens.

Ukraine could be a country both Ukrainians and Russians.

Indeed, it was. Before Putin annexed Crimea then supported
fighting in East Ukraine then officially invaded Ukraine. We
had quite good relations with Russia till then.

Do you still believe people of Crimea are/were loyal to Ukraine and they never wanted to separate from it, after the coup in 2014?

People - yes. Russian colonial government - no.

In short, the people of Crimea had done what they had done only AFTER
the coup which was the trigger of all the havoc in Ukraine.

It was not people, it was Russian army.

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Hi, Alan Ianson!
I read your message from 28.03.2024 11:04

ak>> Multiple collapsed multy-story appartments as well as multiple
ak>> mass graves keep dead bodies well.

AI> It looks similar to what is happening in Ukaraine.

AI> Civilian buildings and infrastructure under attack by the invasion
AI> forces contantly.

Russian army has never bombed the civilian areas deliberately, at least
when people live there. The only real threat for civilians in Ukraine is
its air defence system which sometimes shots down Russia's rocket and
they fall down in the residential area. The reason is simple - bombing civilians in Kiev, Ukraine East and South contradicts the main Putin's paradigm for this war -- "liberation Russian people from Nazi".
Therefore Putin's army does all it can to prevent such strikes.

Another matter in Gaza - Jews consider Palestinians as inferior people
and they don't think long when they want to demolish another multi-story apartment noting a suspicious guy in the window.

Bye, Alan!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hi, Alex Shuman!
I read your message from 28.03.2024 11:45

ak>>>> if somebody suffers from senility. And every
ak>>>> nation has right to fight with occupants, as they
ak>>>> said me. When the occupant complains about nasty
ak>>>> partisans it sounds funny.
AS>>> The ones who target civilians are not partisans but
AS>>> terrorists.
ak>> Agreed. Have you said about the butchery of the civilians
ak>> and thousands of children in Gaza by Israeli bombing? ;-\
AS>
AS> I doubt Israel targeted civilians.

A lot of journalists around the world have worked in Gaza. Many have
been killed by Israeli bombs thinking naive that if they are among
civilians or in hospitals they are safe. The accusation of Israel in
genocide has not been born of a empty place.

Bye, Alex!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hi, Alex Shuman!
I read your message from 28.03.2024 11:49

ak>>>> Ukraine could be a country both Ukrainians and
ak>>>> Russians.
AS>>> Indeed, it was. Before Putin annexed Crimea then
AS>>> supported fighting in East Ukraine then officially
AS>>> invaded Ukraine. We had quite good relations with
AS>>> Russia till then.
ak>> Do you still believe people of Crimea are/were loyal to
ak>> Ukraine and they never wanted to separate from it, after
ak>> the coup in 2014?
AS>
AS> People - yes. Russian colonial government - no.

You are blinded by Zelensky propaganda. Refresh you memory as it was in
Crimea 2014 in reality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTb-6xgQGpY

Bye, Alex!
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x) Friday Mar 29, 2024, 09:20. alexander koryagin ÄÄ Alan Ianson.

Multiple collapsed multy-story appartments as well as multiple
mass graves keep dead bodies well.

It looks similar to what is happening in Ukaraine.
Civilian buildings and infrastructure under attack by the invasion
forces contantly.

Russian army has never bombed the civilian areas deliberately

They doing it right now. Almost every day some civilians die in major cities due to Russian rockets/drones. And there are no military targets in these cities.

paradigm for this war -- "liberation Russian people from Nazi".

But the actual paradigm is "Restoration of the Russian empire", they even called the occuppied regions "New Russia".

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x) Friday Mar 29, 2024, 09:38. alexander koryagin ÄÄ Alex Shuman.

Ukraine could be a country both Ukrainians and
Russians.

Indeed, it was. Before Putin annexed Crimea then
supported fighting in East Ukraine then officially
invaded Ukraine. We had quite good relations with
Russia till then.

Do you still believe people of Crimea are/were loyal to
Ukraine and they never wanted to separate from it, after
the coup in 2014?

People - yes. Russian colonial government - no.

You are blinded by Zelensky propaganda. Refresh you memory as it was in Crimea 2014 in reality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTb-6xgQGpY

They had also "Crimea is Ukraine" protests, and a resistance movement still active.

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x) Friday Mar 29, 2024, 09:31. alexander koryagin ÄÄ Alex Shuman.

if somebody suffers from senility. And every
nation has right to fight with occupants, as they
said me. When the occupant complains about nasty
partisans it sounds funny.

The ones who target civilians are not partisans but
terrorists.

Agreed. Have you said about the butchery of the civilians
and thousands of children in Gaza by Israeli bombing? ;-\

I doubt Israel targeted civilians.

A lot of journalists around the world have worked in Gaza. Many have
been killed by Israeli bombs thinking naive that if they are among civilians or in hospitals they are safe. The accusation of Israel in genocide has not been born of a empty place.

Well, I said about targeting, not collaterial damage.

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Hi, Alex Shuman!
I read your message from 29.03.2024 22:36

ak>>>> Multiple collapsed multy-story appartments as well as multiple
ak>>>> mass graves keep dead bodies well.
AI>>> It looks similar to what is happening in Ukaraine. Civilian
AI>>> buildings and infrastructure under attack by the invasion forces
AI>>> contantly.
ak>> Russian army has never bombed the civilian areas deliberately

ASI> They doing it right now. Almost every day some civilians die in
ASI> major cities due to Russian rockets/drones. And there are no
ASI> military targets in these cities.

ak>> paradigm for this war -- "liberation Russian people from Nazi".

ASI> But the actual paradigm is "Restoration of the Russian empire",
ASI> they even called the occuppied regions "New Russia".


Even from your point of view Putin's army has no any reason to bomb
potential "new Russians". This is the difference between bombing in Gaza
and Ukraine. In Gaza we have something close to genocide.

Bye, Alex!
Alexander Koryagin
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... In Gaza we have something close to genocide.

In Russia there are vast tracts of unspoilt territory which the Russian government could open for settlement by the Palestinians. Russia could solve the problem...Siberia....

Egypt could also solve the problem, it's an Arab area, warm, muslim ... Or Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the Emirates, others ... The real drama for the Palestinians in Gaza or the West Bank is that no-one wants them ... Naahhh ... let the Israelis solve it ... Right?

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x) Monday Apr 01, 2024, 08:41. alexander koryagin ÄÄ Alex Shuman.

They doing it right now. Almost every day some civilians die in
major cities due to Russian rockets/drones. And there are no
military targets in these cities.

paradigm for this war -- "liberation Russian people from Nazi".

But the actual paradigm is "Restoration of the Russian empire",
they even called the occuppied regions "New Russia".

Even from your point of view Putin's army has no any reason to bomb potential "new Russians". This is the difference between bombing in Gaza and Ukraine. In Gaza we have something close to genocide.

In Gaza, they have combatants stationed in/under the city. In major Ukrainian cities we don't. And Russian reason to bomb is terror.

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In Gaza, they have combatants stationed in/under the city. In major Ukrainian cities we don't. And Russian reason to bomb is terror.

In Gaza there's a proxy-war with Iran going on. As long as Iran's role is not recognized there will be no solution. They finance Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houttis and eventually there will be an all-out war between Israel and Iran to prevent "From the river to the sea" happening.

Besides, Iran is also involved in the Russian aggression against Ukraine. It's an even bigger threat than Russia worldwide and Israel is our last stand against Islamism taking over Europe.

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Besides, Iran is also involved in the Russian aggression against Ukraine. It's an even bigger threat than Russia worldwide and Israel is our last stand against Islamism taking over Europe.

Yes, Iran sells Shaheds to Russia, but I doubt it does so in support of Islamism, more like in support of a friendly dictatorship.

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* Origin: Neon_#2, Kiev, Ukraine (2:463/877)