• Participation (oven baked motherboards)

    From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Tue Feb 17 15:40:59 2026
    Hi Ben,

    Fido had a belch on Sunday (2/15) and came up with I think all of the
    missing messages I've had over the past month or so, some 1,000 of them.
    I couldn't do anything with my mail because we we were on the road
    Sunday and Monday, coming home from a ham radio event in Orlando. I'll
    do all the replies and send in one upload in the next day or so.

    Re: Participation (oven baked motherboards)
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Sat Feb 01 2025 13:32:27

    using Tandy products, don't remember what one at the time but he'd
    started around 1979 with a TS-80.

    I remember using a TRS-80 in my school library. By that time it was
    the lowest spec'ed computer in the entire school. I guess i was into retro from the get-go.

    They went obsolete almost as soon as they came out.

    On the topic of kitchen equipment motherboard repair, here is a post
    about burning alcohol to fix an iBook back in 2007.

    <http://www.geektechnique.org/projectlab/726/ diy-obsolete-ibook-logic-board-repair.html>

    Don't know if I'd want to try it. Just from your description and the
    header, it sounds a bit suspect.

    And an obligatory radio recipe...


    Title: Steamed Apricot Pudding
    Categories: Puddings
    Yield: 1 Pudding

    Recipe by Aunt Sammy's Radio Recipes 1931

    Pre television days, radio shows were popular--if you lived in an area
    where you could pick up a broadcast. I guess the States were pretty well covered by then, probably with a lot of local stations instead of the
    national ones we have now. We have satellite radio in the truck so we
    can get the same program in NC as we do in AZ when visiting our daughter
    there. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Tue Feb 17 15:54:18 2026
    Hi Ben,

    game--how many kids played Pong for hours on end with the family

    I remember seeing an electronic Pong machine at a yard sale. They had
    it hooked up to a TV, so i played it with a friend. So i can write
    that i actually experienced that bit of history.

    I only played it once, never was into computer games, especially
    mindless ones like that. Only game I play on the computer is Solitare.

    We've never had an iBook. Our first PCs were ones Steve cobbled together from various places--

    I've built my share of Frankenpooters. The best thing is getting a
    highly functional computer for a low cost. The worst thing i remember
    off the cuff is using OEM motherboards with non-standard, cost-cutting design decisions and limited availability of documentation and
    drivers.

    Got a phone call once, person doing a survey (and wanting to sell a
    certain system) asking if we had a PC, if so, what brand. I said "Yes
    and the keyboard is a X, the printer is a Y, the monitor is a Z.......";
    I think he was a bit bumfuzzled. (G)

    A more appropriate one around our house would be Ham and Chips. (G)

    Alas, my personal recipe collection doesn't include Ham and Chips.

    Do you do seafood? Fish and Chips?

    Here's a recipe for Granola Pie, which strikes me as ecclectic.


    Title: Granola Pie
    Categories: Pies
    Yield: 1 Pie

    Granola Pastry *

    MMMMM--------------------------FILLING-------------------------------
    1 c Dark corn syrup
    1/2 c Sugar
    1/4 c Brandy
    1/4 c Butter; melted
    3 Eggs
    1 ts Vanilla
    1/4 ts Salt
    2 c Granola
    Sweetened whipped cream

    That does sound good. Don't think I could have gotten my parents to eat
    it; they were very old school. One time my dad bragged he'd not eaten
    yogurt, never intended to. Next time they visited, I made one of our
    favorite desserts--sponge cake, yogurt and strawberries (split the cake,
    add yogurt and strawberries to middle, then top with more). After
    supper, our older daughter (about 4 at the time) asked her grandpa how
    he liked the dessert. He replied that he really liked it to which she
    told him that he'd eaten yogurt. He then pretended to act like he was
    choking, to her amusememt.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Tue Feb 17 17:21:34 2026
    Hi Ben,

    I "attended" that way several times. In the fall, when we
    The last few months tho, we've been working on a merger with another congregation and AFAIK, they don't broadcast/link in their service anywhere.

    How'd drive-in style service treat you?

    Actually our church had enough property that we were able to sit
    outside, tho somewhat scattered, but all within a relatively confined
    space. We also did broadcast over a low power radio station if you did
    want to sit in your vehicle but most of us preferred to sit outside and somewhat mingle. Of the 20 weeks we were outside, it only started to
    rain once, right after services ended so we stayed dry. We also met an
    hour earlier than the normal time so we weren't outside in the heat of
    the day.


    I used to attend a spiritual community in Eugene that gave dharma
    talks. During COVID they set up cameras and a large screen so that
    others
    could attend over the Internet. It was a huge success for the
    community and they grew in size.

    However, i couldn't adjust to it. I did not like being on camera.
    For community, meditation, philosophy, song, etc. i strongly prefer it
    to be a small, in-person group. For me, the Internet sucks the joy
    out of
    that stuff.

    We tend to go for smaller congregations where we get to know more
    people, better. We did join, for a few months until we were transferred elsewhere, a good sized church in TX; IIRC, it had 1,000+/- members and
    a couple of Sunday morning services. Overall, the smaller churches have
    been our norm.

    Title: Bluenose Strawberry Soup

    How did "bluenose" get into the title? I don't see anywhere where it
    would be related to what is in it except maybe the brandy--something
    only affordable to the upper classes? Srawberry season will be coming in
    a few months; I'll consider making this, leaving out the brandy.

    Dave asked the same thing, and the best i could come up with was the following theory:

    The recipe came from a cookbook titled The Strawberry Connection and
    it was in a series of cookbooks that began with The Blueberry
    Connection. My
    guess is that it began as a blueberry recipe and was adapted for strawberries.

    OK, sounds like as good a reason as any. We'll be getting fresh
    strawberries in the next few months; I'll have to check my supply of
    strawberry jam, see if I need to make some this year. My MIL gave me a strawberry pie recipe decades ago that I try to make at least once (if
    not more) during strawberry season.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Tue Feb 17 17:34:27 2026
    Hi Ben,

    Found that their music preference is LOUD so we've been
    sitting in the overflow room to cut the volume level somewhat.

    Sound volume preferences are also a challenge. I used to attend an ecstatic dance in Eugene. When i started, they played a lot of world music. Then after a DJ change, they played a lot of soulless EDM,
    raised the volume about 400%, raised the admission fee, and started selling earplugs at the entrance. Ironically i am hard of earing but
    the sound volume was painful for me. No thanks!

    I'd have been out of there FAST! We went to a wedding a couple of weeks
    ago; at the reception, the table we were assigned to was fairly close to
    the band. It was a bit loud for us but we did stay for about 3 hours,
    leaving so we could continue getting ready for our trip to Florida.


    Sounds logical to me. What other fruits are in the series? Peach would
    be a good one.

    Unfortunately, i could not find The Peach Connection.

    From: <https://nimbus.ca/book-author/beatrice-buszek>

    The Apple Connection
    The Blueberry Connection
    The Strawberry Connection
    The Sugar Bush Connection (Maple Syrup)

    They all sound good to me. We're thinking of heading up to New England
    this spring/summer and intend to restock our maple syrup supply. Also
    want to touch base with a couple we know up there that are serving a
    church plant; we've done several mission trips up there to work with
    them.

    And here's a sweet recipe for you...


    Title: Yogurt Honey Cream Pie
    Categories: Pies
    Yield: 1 Pie


    Recipe by Quaker Oats Wholegrain Cookbook

    I think I have that cook book, got it decades ago and have made the oat
    scones from it too many times to count.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Tue Feb 17 17:43:34 2026
    Hi Ben,

    Are you based in Oregon? That, and North Dakota are the only 2 states
    I've yet to visit. One of these days I'll get to them.

    Yes, i am based in Oregon. I would be game for meeting up if you make
    it out here.

    We've got an 8th grade graduation in AZ and a high school one in Utah
    next year (grandkids) so will be heading out that way. Maybe we'll
    decide to be gone a bit longer and go a bit further west; Oregon is one
    of the 2 states I've never been to.

    We were
    also introduced to maple creemees, a Vermont specialty where maple syrup
    is blended with soft serve ice cream, decadent but yummy.

    I've seen articles about Canada's strategic Maple Syrup Reserve, and sometimes i have difficulty telling whether they are serious. ;)

    It does sound almost too good to be true.

    I'd love to try a maple creemee some day. I've had family and
    friends BC> with ice cream makers, but i've never tried my hand at
    making it BC> myself. I read that it can be easy to do using a mason
    jar in the BC> freezer.

    We have a small ice cream maker, haven't used it in a while but save the
    maple creemees for when we're in Vermont. It's one of those things that
    are best in the area of origin; since NC isn't a maple state, I don't
    expect to find a creemee here. I do expect to find good pork bbq and
    seafood. (G)


    Here's another sweet recipe. We have a seasonal treat made in
    Washington called Applets and Cotlets. It is basically the same thing referred to in The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe (Narnia Book 1)
    as Turkish Delight. If it were me, i'd skip the coloring and add some fruit juice, preserves, etc.

    OK, I wasn't sure what Turkish Delight was. I half thought it was some
    sort of candy like Turkish Taffee; now I know better.


    Title: Turkish Paste (Turkish Delight)
    Categories: Candy
    Yield: 1 Batch

    3 tb Gelatin
    1/2 c Water; cold
    1 lb Sugar
    1/2 c Water; hot
    1/4 ts Salt
    3 tb Lemon juice
    Green coloring
    Mint flavoring
    1 c Nuts; finely chopped


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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Tue Feb 17 17:52:52 2026
    Hi Ben,

    One of these days, we just might make it. Oregon is one of the states
    our daughter in AZ has mentioned she might want to move to, now that
    she's retired from active duty with the National Guard. She has 2 boys,
    one on the autism spectrum and she mentioned that the state is good for education. Don't know what she was basing that on but...

    From my perspective my educational experience was good, but my
    friend's kids in Eugene had even better, going to charter schools,

    Her boys went to charter schools up until last school year. She retired
    from active duty (Army National Guard) and home schooled them last year,
    not sure if she's still doing it this year.

    until the
    Covid thing. Abruptly shifting to distance learning was hard on them,
    and i personally think that folks aren't aware just how harmful that
    was. I don't know about autism, but a friend of a friend is a teacher
    in Seattle, and she said that nearly 100% of her students have a
    diagnosis of some kind, autism, A.D.D., depression, etc. and that most
    of them are on a prescription of some kind. Some things are better,

    Seems like a lot of kids are on meds these days that our generation had
    to "tough out".

    like classes
    teaching about communication, emotional intelligence, and
    interpersonal skils (wish *I* had learned those as a kid), and some
    things are far
    worse.

    Win some, lose some. I went to a small K-12 school with no AP classes,
    sort of wish there had been the opportunity for some or more electives but..................ended up graduating #12 out of a class of 63.

    moved up to Washington, and knew we could get (and did) creemees in
    Barre, about 15 minutes away.

    Maple syrup poured on soft-serve icecream reminds me of Laura Ingalls
    book Little House In The Woods where they poured maple syrup on the
    snow to harden it into a frozen candy. I'd eat that. :9

    That goes by different names; I first knew it as Jax Wax but have heard
    it called Sugar on Snow, don't remember other names but it is good. You
    have to boil the syrup down really thick--maybe boil a gallon down to a
    quart to make it thick enough to harden quickly. But it is yummy; I can
    tell you that from personal experience.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Tue Feb 17 18:03:06 2026
    Hi Ben,

    ... we donated several net books,
    note books and other small computers to a local drive--helped clean out some of our unused stuff. Steve put a basic internet program on each of them before donating.

    How cool is that! I like reading about old equipment being put to
    use.

    Helped us clear out some non usable (to us) stuff too. That space has
    been filled (and overflowed now) with ham radio stuff now.


    Sometimes you feel like a nut...

    Hey i remember watching that jingle on broadcast TV when i was a
    kid...

    Same here, tho I've never been a fan of coconut or nuts in most things.
    For a while (maybe 3 years) I found Milky Way bars with a chocolate
    caramel filling, turned out they were made in Canada. Those were really
    good but sadly, no longer available in the States.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Tue Feb 17 18:13:47 2026
    Hi Ben,

    I remember loading arcade games from cassette tape onto a VIC-20. I
    also remember two friends playing games on a C=64, and i didn't get as

    Steve typed in a lot of the stuff from Compute's Gazatte onto the
    datasette for the first 18 months we had the C-64. Had a tv for the
    monitor, a bit of frustration when I'd want to catch the late news. I'd
    remind him about 9:50 (we were in TX, late news was 10:00) and he'd say
    "just a minute". News would be over, Johnny Carson almost over before
    he'd stop most nights.

    much
    screen time on the C=64 as on the VIC-20. One friend had a floppy
    drive and the other was using cassette tape only. But he was given a
    HUGE set of cassette tapes. Whoever owned that C=64 before him
    collected a lot!

    We didn't collect a lot of tapes; about 18 months after we got the
    computer, Steve used some money from a government travel settlment to
    get a disc drive and monitor.

    For the next time you get significant (clean) snow and have maple
    syrup RH> on hand? We had 1.25" of snow last week, not enough to
    harvest. Enough RH> to shut down the area for a couple of days tho. (G)

    Exactly. So far this winter we had a dusting of snow one day. I
    happened to bicycle through it to a dentist appointment. Sadly for
    that dentist's business there was not enough snow to make candy in.

    He will make up for it at the end of October. One of our local dentists
    pays kids for their candy hauls, then sends the candy to deployed
    troops.

    I remember it too. We got our first TV when I was in 4th grade, only one channel. A few years later my dad reworked the lead in (no antenna, just
    a wire from the main line) wire and we got 2 channels. When I came home from college for Easter break, my folks had tied into the NYC cable,
    with one local channel. IIRC, the ads for Almond Joy and Mounds were in
    the days when we got just 2 channels.

    When i was a kid, my parents went without a TV because they thought it
    was a bad influence. But we brought a TV in the house for that
    VIC-20, and slowly began to use it as a TV too. I personally think it
    was good for me to have had limited exposure to media, but i didn't
    see it that way when i was a kid. :-)

    We got our first one about a year before the JFK assasination; that was
    my first exposure to an extensive news coverage event. Did somewhat know
    about the world beyond our small town because Dad bought the NY Times
    every day.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ben Collver@1:105/500 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Feb 18 07:23:09 2026
    Re: Participation (oven baked motherboards)
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Tue Feb 17 2026 03:40 pm

    Fido had a belch on Sunday (2/15) and came up with I think all of the missing messages I've had over the past month or so, some 1,000 of them. I couldn't do anything with my mail because we we were on the road Sunday
    and Monday, coming home from a ham radio event in Orlando. I'll do all the replies and send in one upload in the next day or so.

    Whoo, welcome back! Sounds potentially overwhelming. But hey, at least you have some reading material...

    Alas, my personal recipe collection doesn't include Ham and Chips.

    Do you do seafood? Fish and Chips?

    Yes, i've eaten fish & chips. I recently read an article about how
    restaurant food in the UK is often saltier than their nutrition facts
    claim. However, one of the "good ones" was fish & chips due to the
    fact that they sprinkle the salt on the surface AFTER it is cooked.
    So it's not as salty as it tastes.

    One time my dad bragged he'd not eaten
    yogurt, never intended to. Next time they visited, I made one of our favorite desserts--sponge cake, yogurt and strawberries (split the cake, add yogurt and strawberries to middle, then top with more). After
    supper, our older daughter (about 4 at the time) asked her grandpa how
    he liked the dessert. He replied that he really liked it to which she
    told him that he'd eaten yogurt. He then pretended to act like he was choking, to her amusememt.

    LOL! I liked this story. :-)

    That sounds almost idyllic, being prepared and having a backup plan to
    be warm, toasty, and well fed.

    It was nice; we ended up being caught between 2 systems than never
    merged so we only got about 3.5 inches and our power stayed on.

    This morning is a winter wonderland outside with snow all over everything.
    I started a batch of chicken lentil soup in the crockpot with potatoes, carrots, sauteed onions, garlic, & bay leaves.

    We've got an 8th grade graduation in AZ and a high school one in Utah
    next year (grandkids) so will be heading out that way. Maybe we'll
    decide to be gone a bit longer and go a bit further west; Oregon is one
    of the 2 states I've never been to.

    We have exactly one national park in Oregon: Crater Lake. It's busy! But beautiful, and pleasant to watch the sun rise over the lake. The food in
    the lodge is expensive, but usually good. If you drove west from
    Crater Lake to the Oregon Caves National Monument, you'd pass through
    Grants Pass, where i live.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Flintstones Beef Ribs
    Categories: Five, Beef, Herbs
    Yield: 1 serving

    1 1/2 lb Bone-in beef short ribs (3)
    2 tb 321 Spice Blend

    MMMMM---------------------321 SPICE BLEND----------------------------
    3 c Granulated garlic
    2 c Ground black pepper
    1 c Salt

    Heat the smoker to 325?F/165?C.

    321 Spice Blend:

    In a large mixing bowl, add the garlic powder, black pepper, and
    salt, and mix until combined.

    Yield: 6 Cups

    Ribs:

    Trim the excess fat off the meat. Coat the ribs with the 321 Spice
    Blend on all sides.

    Place the ribs in the smoker over indirect heat until brown on all
    sides, 1 hour 30 minutes to 2 hours.

    Place the meat on a wire rack set over a deep pan filled with 2" of
    water. Tightly wrap the pan with foil. Return the pan to the smoker
    over indirect heat and cook until the ribs are very tender, about
    4 hours.

    Remove from the smoker and plate to serve.

    This recipe was provided by a chef, restaurant or culinary
    professional.

    It has not been tested for home use.

    Recipe courtesy of Smoketown, USA, Louisville, KY

    Recipe FROM: https://www.foodnetwork.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Thu Feb 19 15:52:39 2026
    Hi Ben,

    Fido had a belch on Sunday (2/15) and came up with I think all of the missing messages I've had over the past month or so, some 1,000 of them. I couldn't do anything with my mail because we we were on the road Sunday
    and Monday, coming home from a ham radio event in Orlando. I'll do all the replies and send in one upload in the next day or so.

    Whoo, welcome back! Sounds potentially overwhelming. But hey, at
    least you have some reading material...

    I'm all caught up, just doing the daily reading of Fido, e-mail, Raleigh
    News & Observer on line and usually some sort of historic fiction book.
    All caught up with laundry, mostly caught up with other household jobs
    but going to chill for a few days. Had a routine doctor's appointment
    this afternoon, found out I've got pneumonia---not severe but the rest
    (and meds) will do me good. We have enough food in the pantry, fridge
    and freezer that is either easy to cook or just heat and serve that I
    don't have to fuss there.


    Alas, my personal recipe collection doesn't include Ham and Chips.

    Do you do seafood? Fish and Chips?

    Yes, i've eaten fish & chips. I recently read an article about how restaurant food in the UK is often saltier than their nutrition facts claim. However, one of the "good ones" was fish & chips due to the
    fact that they sprinkle the salt on the surface AFTER it is cooked.
    So it's not as salty as it tastes.

    I had some back in 1988 when I went to England with some friends. Chips
    were actually French fries. (G)

    One time my dad bragged he'd not eaten
    yogurt, never intended to. Next time they visited, I made one of our favorite desserts--sponge cake, yogurt and strawberries (split the cake, add yogurt and strawberries to middle, then top with more). After
    supper, our older daughter (about 4 at the time) asked her grandpa how
    he liked the dessert. He replied that he really liked it to which she
    told him that he'd eaten yogurt. He then pretended to act like he was choking, to her amusememt.

    LOL! I liked this story. :-)

    I thought you would, as well as others who read the echo. My dad was a
    WWII veteran but not enthused about women in the military--until his
    younger granddaughter (our younger daughter) joined up and ws deployed.
    He was "bustin' his buttons" proud of her.


    It was nice; we ended up being caught between 2 systems than never
    merged so we only got about 3.5 inches and our power stayed on.

    This morning is a winter wonderland outside with snow all over
    everything. I started a batch of chicken lentil soup in the crockpot
    with potatoes, carrots, sauteed onions, garlic, & bay leaves.

    We're back to no snow or ice on the ground, last of it disappeared while
    we were in Florida. Always the possibility of getting more this winter
    but less and less likely. Your soup sounds like just the prescription
    for a snowy day.


    We've got an 8th grade graduation in AZ and a high school one in Utah
    next year (grandkids) so will be heading out that way. Maybe we'll
    decide to be gone a bit longer and go a bit further west; Oregon is one
    of the 2 states I've never been to.

    We have exactly one national park in Oregon: Crater Lake. It's busy!
    But beautiful, and pleasant to watch the sun rise over the lake. The
    food in the lodge is expensive, but usually good. If you drove west
    from
    Crater Lake to the Oregon Caves National Monument, you'd pass through Grants Pass, where i live.

    OK, we'll have to think it over. Those trips are usually about 5 weeks;
    a side trip to Oregon would probably add a couple more weeks to it. But,
    now we have basic knowledge to plan distance to travel, time at each
    stop, etc to factor in going further west.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ben Collver@1:105/500 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Feb 21 06:48:12 2026
    Re: Participation
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Thu Feb 19 2026 03:52 pm

    I'm all caught up, just doing the daily reading of Fido, e-mail, Raleigh News & Observer on line and usually some sort of historic fiction book.
    All caught up with laundry, mostly caught up with other household jobs but going to chill for a few days. Had a routine doctor's appointment this afternoon, found out I've got pneumonia---not severe but the rest (and meds) will do me good. We have enough food in the pantry, fridge and freezer that is either easy to cook or just heat and serve that I don't have to fuss there.

    That sounds good. Do you like historic fiction movies as well? The other
    day i watched The Love Letter (1998), which wasn't bad considering that it
    is a Hallmark Channel movie. It does have ridiculous parts, but i liked
    the time travel theme.

    I had some back in 1988 when I went to England with some friends. Chips were actually French fries. (G)

    A friend's mother grew up in Scotland. She told me how the local outdoor swimming pool sold food. You could walk up to the counter and order
    fish & chips right there in your bathing suit. I was imagining French
    fries and not crisps.

    Once i lived in a town that had an English pub style restaurant, and they
    had malt vinegar on the tables to go with the fish and chips. Once when
    they were having a rough time with the business, they switched from
    "French fries" to kettle style potato chips. I suppose those would be
    called crisps in the UK. I think it was temporary.

    He was "bustin' his buttons" proud of her.

    Aww how sweet. :-)

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Collard Greens & Corn Balls
    Categories: Pork, Soul food, Vegetables
    Yield: 5 Servings

    MMMMM--------------------------COLLARDS-------------------------------
    4 bn Collard greens
    4 md Ham hocks; up to 5
    Salt & pepper; to taste
    3 tb Bacon drippings; up to 4 tb

    MMMMM-------------------------CORN BALLS------------------------------
    2 c White corn meal
    1 tb Baking powder
    Salt; to taste
    1/4 c Water; hot

    Collards:

    Wash ham hocks. Cook until half done. Prepare collard greens by
    washing and cutting up if desired. After ham hocks are half done, add
    greens. Greens should be tender before you add corn balls. Let corn
    balls cook until done. Do not overcooks, or the corn balls will fall
    apart.

    Corn Balls:

    Add all ingredients in bowl, gradually add hot water, then mix well.
    Roll into medium corn balls by hand.

    In order to form corn balls, mixture should be just moist enough to
    stay together when formed into balls.

    Recipe by Mrs. Erma Regland

    Recipe FROM: <https://cdm16118.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/
    collection/p16118coll37/id/993/rec/38>

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Mon Feb 23 13:52:22 2026
    Hi Ben,

    Fido is acting quirky again; this is my first mail since last Thursday.
    Guess I'll just learn to live with getting mail every few days instead
    of every day, like USPS. (G)

    I'm all caught up, just doing the daily reading of Fido, e-mail,
    routine doctor's appointment this RH> afternoon, found out I've got pneumonia---not severe but the rest (and RH> meds) will do me good. We
    have enough food in the pantry, fridge and RH> freezer that is either
    easy to cook or just heat and serve that I don't RH> have to fuss there.

    That sounds good. Do you like historic fiction movies as well? The

    I'm not much of a movie watcher; we've got a book shelf full of DVDs
    that I think we've watched maybe half of them. Some are fantasy or
    sci-fi which Steve likes, got a good collection of Veggie Tales and
    classic Disney and assorted others.


    other day i watched The Love Letter (1998), which wasn't bad
    considering that it is a Hallmark Channel movie. It does have
    ridiculous parts, but i liked the time travel theme.

    I might watch it with someone else but not apt to do it alone. More
    likely I'll curl up with some reading.


    I had some back in 1988 when I went to England with some friends. Chips were actually French fries. (G)

    A friend's mother grew up in Scotland. She told me how the local
    outdoor swimming pool sold food. You could walk up to the counter and order
    fish & chips right there in your bathing suit. I was imagining French fries and not crisps.

    The lake where our town's youth summer recreation program had its
    swimming classes had something similar. It was right across the road
    from one of the big Jewish summer hotels in the Catskills so got a lot
    of tourist business for the snack bar. I've not been in the area for
    some years but IIRC, the hotel burned down at the end of one summer and
    the lake was drained.

    Once i lived in a town that had an English pub style restaurant,
    and BC> they had malt vinegar on the tables to go with the fish and
    chips. BC> Once when they were having a rough time with the business,
    they BC> switched from BC> "French fries" to kettle style potato chips.
    I suppose those would be BC> called crisps in the UK. I think it was
    temporary.

    Probably so. We went to Arthur Treacher's in Jacksonville (NC) a few
    times after we were married and would always get malt vinegar for our
    fish and chips. I'll have to check my pantry but I may still have a
    bottle of it. I know I've got some fish in the freezer so maybe once I
    get to feeling better, I'll pull it out and we'll do fish and chips.
    Right now tho, it's easy to cook/clean up meals for a few more days.

    He was "bustin' his buttons" proud of her.

    Aww how sweet. :-)

    When she was deployed, he sent her the New Testament that he'd carried
    while serving in the Navy during WWII. I don't know if she kept it when
    she came back to the States or gave it back to him; he passed away in
    2017.


    Title: Collard Greens & Corn Balls
    Categories: Pork, Soul food, Vegetables
    Yield: 5 Servings

    Looks good but Steve can't eat corn. As far as we know, small amounts of
    corn starch and even smaller amounts of corn syrup don't bother him but
    any other form will give him migraine headaches. Much as we both like
    corn on the cob and hush puppies, I don't make them (but I will
    occaisionally indulge if we're eating out). Wegman's sells a black bean tortilla chip that we buy for him; I'll sometimes get a small bag of
    original Fritos for me.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... OH NO! Not ANOTHER learning experience!

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Feb 24 10:29:57 2026
    Re: Participation
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Mon Feb 23 2026 01:52 pm

    Fido is acting quirky again; this is my first mail since last Thursday. Gues I'll just learn to live with getting mail every few days instead of every day, like USPS. (G)

    Just like the old days - mail would transfer by phone overnight to your local echo hub, who'd transfer it to one of the backbone hubs, which would send it on to the destination echomail hub, and to the recipient...

    Conversations would take place over days.
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  • From MIKE POWELL@1:2320/195 to RUTH HAFFLY on Wed Feb 25 08:28:00 2026
    Fido is acting quirky again; this is my first mail since last Thursday.
    Guess I'll just learn to live with getting mail every few days instead
    of every day, like USPS. (G)

    I wonder if your boss node, or maybe their hub, is having issues? Mail
    for COOKING seems to be flowing daily here.

    Mike
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  • From Ben Collver@1:105/500 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Feb 25 07:08:13 2026
    Re: Participation
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Mon Feb 23 2026 01:52 pm

    Hi Ruth,

    I'll have to check my pantry but I may still have a bottle of it. I
    know I've got some fish in the freezer so maybe once I get to feeling better, I'll pull it out and we'll do fish and chips.

    I've read that expiration dates on vinegar are purely performative
    measures to keep stock moving. Hope you're feeling better soon.

    Looks good but Steve can't eat corn.

    I forgot about that dietary restriction.

    Last night i ate fajitas for dinner, roughly based on the following
    recipe. We omitted the lettuce, added sliced crookneck & zucchini,
    used home-grown oregano, and added fresh diced tomatoes, cilantro,
    and yogurt. Delicious!

    * Exported from MasterCook *

    Fantastic Pork Fajitas

    Recipe By :
    Serving Size : 4 Preparation Time :0:00
    Categories : Mexican Pork

    Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
    -------- ------------ --------------------------------
    1 lb Lean boneless pork
    2 cl Garlic -- minced
    1 ts Oregano -- crumbled
    1/2 ts Cumin
    1 ts Seasoned salt
    2 tb Orange juice
    2 tb Vinegar
    1 ds Hot pepper sauce
    1 tb Cooking oil
    1 md Onion -- peeled and sliced
    1 Green pepper -- seeded & sliced
    4 Flour tortillas
    Green onion tops -- sliced
    Lettuce -- shredded
    Salsa

    Slice pork across grain into 1/8" strips. Marinate pork strips in
    garlic, oregano, cumin, salt, orange juice, vinegar, and hot pepper
    sauce for 10 minutes.

    Heat heavy skillet or griddle until hot. Add 1 tb of oil, onion,
    green pepper, and pork strips; stir fry until pork is no longer
    pink, about 3 to 5 minutes. Serve with flour tortillas and
    accompany with sliced green onion, shredded lettuce, and salsa.

    Calories per serving: 293


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Kurt Weiske on Wed Feb 25 21:56:39 2026
    Kurt Weiske wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    Just like the old days - mail would transfer by phone overnight to your local echo hub, who'd transfer it to one of the backbone hubs, which
    would send it on to the destination echomail hub, and to the
    recipient...

    These days, it's all of these systems on autopilot that never get checked and when they break, there's ripple effects throughout Z1.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: No Mess Lasagna
    Categories: Beef, D/g, Casseroles, Boat
    Yield: 6 Servings

    32 oz Jar spaghetti sauce
    9 Lasagna noodles, UNCOOKED
    12 oz Dry curd cottage cheese
    1 Egg
    8 oz Cheese, Mozzarella; shredded
    1/4 Cheese, parmesan, grated
    1 lb Beef, ground, or turkey
    1 tb -Italian spices to taste -

    Preheat oven to 350 degrees Brown ground beef and drain Mix together
    ground beef and spaghetti sauce (add spices} In Medium bowl, mix
    cottage cheese, mozzarella cheese and egg until well blended. Spread
    1/4 sauce on bottom of pan (approximately 7 x 11 x 3) Place one
    noodle layer 3 across bottom of pan Place 1/2 cottage cheese mixture
    on top of noodle, then layer 1/3 of sauce then the second layer of
    noodle. Repeat, ending with top layer of noodle, and then top with
    sauce. Sprinkle with parmesan cheese. Cover tightly with foil Cook 1
    hour covered. Uncover and cook 15 min more. Test with point of knife
    to make sure noodles are soft. Let cool 10 minutes before cutting
    into serving pieces. MICROWAVE VERSION USE 8 X 8 glass dish. follow
    above directions. except cover loosely with wax paper. Microwave on
    high 18 min, turn dish and continue another 18 min.
    Let stand 5 min before serving. (Test for doneness - zap longer if
    necessary )

    From Gemini's MASSIVE MealMaster collection at www.synapse.com/~gemini

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Kurt Weiske on Wed Feb 25 16:03:26 2026
    Hi Kurt,

    Re: Participation
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Mon Feb 23 2026 01:52 pm

    Fido is acting quirky again; this is my first mail since last Thursday. Gues I'll just learn to live with getting mail every few days instead of every day, like USPS. (G)

    Just like the old days - mail would transfer by phone overnight to
    your local echo hub, who'd transfer it to one of the backbone hubs,
    which would send it on to the destination echomail hub, and to the recipient...

    Conversations would take place over days.

    Better days than months or sometimes years before you got mail. Trouble
    is, in today's society, (almost) everybody expects instant results for everything and it's just not always going to happen. A lot of the better
    things in life take time, like sourdough bread without a yeast kick
    start, many wines and other potent potables, couture clothing--lots of
    hand stitching there and so much more. I was brought up in a time where
    a slower pace was normal; our grandkids have learned that gratification
    isn't always instant.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... A mind stretched by new ideas can never go back to its original size.

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  • From MIKE POWELL@1:2320/195 to RUTH HAFFLY on Fri Feb 27 09:55:00 2026
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Thu Feb 26 12:14:03 2026
    Hi Ben,

    I'll have to check my pantry but I may still have a bottle of it. I
    know I've got some fish in the freezer so maybe once I get to feeling better, I'll pull it out and we'll do fish and chips.

    I've read that expiration dates on vinegar are purely performative measures to keep stock moving. Hope you're feeling better soon.

    Some are suggestions, with some of them being a lot broader in scope of
    actual expiration than others. I'd not want to drink 10 year old milk
    (unless it's UHT proccessed) but a 10 year old vinegar might be a bit
    sharper than a more recent vintage but still good.

    I'm gradually improving, still not doing a lot beyond basic routine
    things. Last night I put some Lundberg rice blend into our rice cooker
    and we had it with chicken and cashews that Steve brought home from our
    local Chinese place. Left overs will probably be supper tonight. I still
    have a few days of meds and then have a (routine) appointment with my pulmonology doctor next week.

    Looks good but Steve can't eat corn.

    I forgot about that dietary restriction.

    It's such an uncommon one that most people do forget about it. I've
    forgotten to read labels a few times and come home with something he
    can't eat...........but usually I can, at a time when he'd got a supper meeting.


    Last night i ate fajitas for dinner, roughly based on the following recipe. We omitted the lettuce, added sliced crookneck & zucchini,
    used home-grown oregano, and added fresh diced tomatoes, cilantro,
    and yogurt. Delicious!

    We'll pass on the cilantro but otherwise it sounds good. Steve will eat miniscule amounts of cilantro if it can't be avoided; I will eat more
    but not a whole lot. At our favorite Mexican restaurant in in Hawaii,
    Steve would ask for his dish to be made with no cilantro; I'd ask for a
    small amount. We'd get the food and I'd pull out probably half a dozen
    or more big leaves of that stuff--makes you wonder how much was in their regular cooking. Meals were always good except for that.



    Fantastic Pork Fajitas

    Recipe By :
    Serving Size : 4 Preparation Time :0:00
    Categories : Mexican Pork

    Now you've got me hungry for Mexican. (G)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... One of these days, I'll quit procrastinating.

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Feb 27 07:52:22 2026
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    up in a time where a slower pace was normal; our grandkids have learned that gratification isn't always instant.

    That's a valuable lesson. I've got a 22 year old and a 16 year old, and patience is not a virtue with their friend groups.



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  • From Ben Collver@1:105/500 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Feb 28 06:37:58 2026
    Re: Participation
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Thu Feb 26 2026 12:14 pm

    Hi Ruth,

    I'm gradually improving, still not doing a lot beyond basic routine
    things.

    Hang in there! Friends and family have been getting colds. The last two
    colds have passed over me thankfully.

    We'll pass on the cilantro but otherwise it sounds good. Steve will eat miniscule amounts of cilantro if it can't be avoided; I will eat more but not a whole lot. At our favorite Mexican restaurant in in Hawaii, Steve would ask for his dish to be made with no cilantro; I'd ask for a small amount. We'd get the food and I'd pull out probably half a dozen or more big leaves of that stuff--makes you wonder how much was in their regular cooking. Meals were always good except for that.

    I have the gene that's supposed to make cilantro taste bad, but i love it.
    I guess that gene didn't express itself, thankfully. I'm surprised the restaurant in Hawaii wasn't more careful to honor your request. At least
    the big leaves are easier to pick out than little bits are.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Stuffed Pesto Potatoes With Fennel Compote
    Categories: Stuffed, Veg
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 lg Baking potatoes;
    - well scrubbed
    8 oz Soft silken tofu;
    - drained, mashed
    1/2 c Basil pesto
    1 tb Low-sodium tamari
    Salt
    Black pepper; freshly ground
    Olive oil; for drizzling
    1 c Fennel Compote With Black
    - Olives And Pine Nuts

    Preheat the oven to 400?F. Pierce the potatoes with a fork and bake
    until soft, about 1 hour. Remove from the oven but leave the oven on.

    Lightly oil a baking dish. When the potatoes are cool enough to
    handle, cut in half lengthwise and, leaving the shells intact, scoop
    out the flesh into a large bowl. Add the tofu, pesto, tamari, and
    salt & pepper to taste, blending until well combined. Spoon the
    stuffing back into the potato skins and arrange in the prepared dish.
    Drizzle with a small amount of olive oil and bake until hot, 15 to
    20 minutes.

    To serve, arrange the potato halves on a platter or 4 individual
    plates and top each with a spoonful of the fennel compote and another
    drizzle of olive oil, if desire.

    Recipe by Vegan Planet by Robin Robertson

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