• Uncle Dirty Dave

    From Ben Collver@1:105/500 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Jan 25 08:04:36 2026
    Re: Uncle Dirty Dave
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Fri Jan 23 2026 07:40 pm

    Hi Ruth,

    My dad got into doing computer services (payroll, bookkeeping, etc) for others (in a town of about 800) after he lost his newspaper (editor, small position. No pension out of it but between his business for 20 years, mom working as a librarian (school first,then town) and retirement from that,

    Interesting, so both UDD and your Dad had experience publishing.
    Publishing, bookkeeping, and library work all strike me as social in nature, though a lot of the actual work is "behind the scenes" so to say.
    It sounds like your Dad did bookkeeping on that Texas Instruments computer?
    Did either of your parents ever "take you to work" with them? If so, what
    do you remember that being like?

    Sounds good to me. Steve found some goat meat in the freezer last night; I'm going to put it in a crock pot with some peppers, onions, and tomatoes for an easy sorta chili tomorrow.

    Do i recall correctly that "sorta" cuisine means improvising with what's
    on hand?

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Fresh Pork Sausage
    Categories: Sausages
    Yield: 10 Pounds

    5 tb Salt
    1 tb Ground white pepper
    2 tb Rubbed sage
    1 ts Ginger
    1 tb Nutmeg
    1 tb Thyme
    1 tb Ground hot red pepper
    2 c Ice water (optional)

    You can make an excellent breakfast sausage using 100% pork butts.
    This product is of such high quality that it is never seen in a meat
    market and can only be had by making it yourself. You can also make a
    breakfast sausage of 50% pork butts and 50% pork trimming and you
    would still have a sausage of high quality. All the pork used to
    manufacture sausage must be chilled from 32 to 35?F without fail. Be
    sure that all the meat is free of blood clots, sinews, bone, skin,
    glands, etc.

    Grind all the meat through a 3/16" grinder plate and place in mixer.
    Add all the ingredients and mix well until all the spices are evenly
    distributed.

    Pork sausage may be stuffed into 28 to 30 mm hog casings or 22 to 24
    mm lamb casings. Pork sausage also may be stuffed into a cloth bag or
    a 3-1/2 by 24" fibrous casing. It is very important that pork sausage
    not be allowed to remain at room temperature any longer than
    necessary. Place in cooler as soon as possible. Pork sausage should
    be allowed to chill and dry in 28 to 32?F cooler.

    Posted by: Ed P <esp@snet.n>

    Recipe FROM: <news:10i7lgt$2eau2$1@dont-email.me>,
    <news:rec.food.cooking/1579104>

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Sun Jan 18 16:39:59 2026
    Hi Ben,

    When he was younger (he didn't say how young), he worked as a
    projectionist in a movie theater that showed movies not suitable for children. ...

    Ha! It sounds like his honorific was used affectionately and with
    good humor.

    Very much so. I don't know how long you've read the echo to pick up on
    what he did over his years but he had quite an interesting life. He
    served in the US Navy, was a big rig truck driver, newspaper publisher,
    movie theater projectionist and not sure what all else before retiring
    at age 62. Found out he was bored so started to work for an auto supply
    store, just retired from that this past fall after 20 years. Had a
    number of health issues over the years, some stemming from being a
    smoker in his younger days but lived a very full life.


    How about you, yourself. Did you ever have a humorous nickname, and
    if you did, is it something you would be willing to share?

    No, never had anything of note and I strongly dislike/discourage the use
    of a diminuative (i,e,y) with my name. Gave our older daughter a name
    not suitable for using the diminuative with, younger daughter's name
    could have had one but we always used the proper name.


    A fishing pole is a good cat toy--tie something to the end of the line, cast and reel in. I've a friend that owned several cats and they all enjoyed chasing whatever was at the end of the line.

    We have something like that in the closet here. Today i should dig it
    out and show our cat a good time. :-)

    Watch the kitten come out! I sent my sister some kitty toys I'd made;
    she e-mailed me that he is enjoying them.

    for Steve's birthday so we bought a roll at Wegman's. As good as Wegman's is for a lot of things, their pumpkin roll doesn't measure up to my home made one. (G)

    I would generally prefer home made over store bought, but honestly,
    any dessert that gets served to me is a good dessert. I made this
    fruit salad a few days ago and was happy with it:

    Looks good but what, exactly, (know it's an Asian seasoning but is it
    easily obtainable?) is Chaat masala? Where would I find it; I don't know
    of any Indian/Pakistani grocery stores in the area?

    Title: Fruit Chaat
    Categories: Dessert, Fruit salad, Pakistani
    Yield: 6 Servings

    2 Honeycrisp apples; diced 1"
    6 Guavas; diced 1"
    2 Pomegranates; seeds only
    2 Bananas; sliced crosswise 1"
    1 Orange; juice of
    1 tb Fine sugar; up to 2 tb
    Salt & pepper; to taste *
    1 1/2 ts Chaat masala

    * Use with restraint since chaat masala is already salty.

    Throw chopped fruit in a large bowl. Season with salt, pepper, and
    chaat masala. Stir, taste, adjust.

    Squeeze the juice of the orange on the salad, and stir to coat.

    Sprinkle sugar, and stir to coat again.

    Taste, and adjust.

    Recipe by Maryam Jillani

    Recipe FROM: <https://www.pakistaneats.com/recipes/fruit-chaat/>


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    Ruth
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  • From Ben Collver@1:105/500 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jan 20 06:52:51 2026
    Re: Uncle Dirty Dave
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Sun Jan 18 2026 04:39 pm

    Hi Ruth,

    Very much so. I don't know how long you've read the echo to pick up on
    what he did over his years but he had quite an interesting life. He served in the US Navy, was a big rig truck driver, newspaper publisher, movie theater projectionist and not sure what all else before retiring at age
    62. Found out he was bored so started to work for an auto supply store, just retired from that this past fall after 20 years. Had a number of health issues over the years, some stemming from being a smoker in his younger days but lived a very full life.

    I knew about UDD being in the Navy, being a truck driver, a newspaper publisher, and working in his retirement at AutoZone. I did not know about
    his history as a movie theater projectionist.

    Looks good but what, exactly, (know it's an Asian seasoning but is it easily obtainable?) is Chaat masala? Where would I find it; I don't know
    of any Indian/Pakistani grocery stores in the area?

    Chaat Masala literally translates to Snack Spice. For best results, make
    your own. I used some that my mother made. Here are recipes:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Homemade Chaat Masala
    Categories: Indian, Spices
    Yield: 4 Tablespoon

    1 tb Coriander seeds
    1 tb Cumin seeds
    1 tb Black peppercorns
    1 tb Dry mango powder
    1/2 tb Fennel seeds
    1/2 tb Black salt
    1/2 tb Table salt
    2 Dried red chiles -OR-
    2 ts Chili flakes

    Preparation time: 5 minutes

    This homemade chaat masala powder is a quick spice mix that adds a
    perfect balance of tang, heat, and saltiness to Indian street food,
    fruits, and snacks. Made with simple pantry spices, it's fresh,
    aromatic, and far better than store-bought versions!

    Add all ingredients to a spice or coffee grinder and blend until fine
    and smooth.

    Pour into a clean, airtight jar and keep in a cool, dry spot.

    Recipe by Famidha Ashraf

    Recipe FROM: <https://butfirstchai.com/homemade-chaat-masala-recipe/>

    See also: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaat_masala>

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    Title: Chaat Masala
    Categories: Indian, Spices
    Yield: 1 Batch

    1 tb Cumin seeds
    1 ts Coriander seeds
    1/2 ts Fennel seeds
    1/2 ts Dried mint
    2 ts Black salt (kala namak)
    1 tb Mango (amchoor) powder
    1/2 ts Black pepper;
    - preferably whole
    1 ts Kashmiri chili powder
    1/2 ts Ginger powder

    Roast cumin, coriander, and fennel one after another in a pan until
    they turn slightly more brown.

    Combine roasted seeds with other spices and grind to a fine powder in
    a spice grinder or something similar.

    Notes:

    This recipe is supposed to include asafoetida powder, but I didn't
    have any, so I may update it at a later date.

    Roasting the seeds is always better, but it will work with pre-ground
    spices as well.

    Recipe FROM:
    <gopher://lumidify.org/0/recipes/spice_mixes/chaat_masala.md>

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    Title: Homemade Chaat Masala (Hot & Tangy Indian Spice Blend)
    Categories: Indian, Spices
    Yield: 3 /4 cups

    1/4 c Coriander seeds
    1/4 c Cumin seeds
    5 Whole dried red kashmiri
    - chillies; up to 6,
    - remove stems,
    - adjust to taste
    1/2 ts Ajwain (carrom) seeds;
    - scant
    1 tb Whole black peppercorns
    1 sm Green cardamom
    1 sm Clove
    1 Cinnamon stick (1/4")
    2 1/2 tb Amchoor (dry mango powder)
    1/4 ts Citric acid powder; scant
    1 ts Kashmiri chilli powder or
    - paprika
    1/2 ts Kala namak (black salt);
    - available in indian stores
    - (optional)
    2 Dried mint leaves; up to 3
    2 tb Salt; or to taste

    Use newly bought spices for this recipe. If the spices are more than 6
    months old, the blend will come out bitter.

    In a dry skillet, lightly dry roast coriander seeds, cumin seeds,
    whole chillies, ajwain, peppercorns, cardamom, cloves, and cinnamon
    stick. Dry roast each spice one at a time, separately, on low heat.
    Do not let the spices turn brown. Let cool completely.

    Put the roasted spices along with other items into dry coffee grinder
    or spice grinder and blitz to a fine powder.

    Store in air tight container at room temperature for up to 6 months.

    Recipe by sanjuro

    Recipe FROM: <gopher://sdf.org/0/users/sanjuro/indian-food/
    homemade-chaat-masala-recipe.txt>

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Tue Jan 20 12:36:43 2026
    Hi Ben,


    Very much so. I don't know how long you've read the echo to pick up on
    what he did over his years but he had quite an interesting life. He served in the US Navy, was a big rig truck driver, newspaper publisher, movie theater projectionist and not sure what all else before retiring at age
    62. Found out he was bored so started to work for an auto supply store, just retired from that this past fall after 20 years. Had a number of

    I knew about UDD being in the Navy, being a truck driver, a newspaper publisher, and working in his retirement at AutoZone. I did not know about his history as a movie theater projectionist.

    That was a long time before any of us knew him. He was also big into
    Commodore computers, especially the Amigas. Steve started with a
    Commodore 64; when he switched to a PC, he gave Dave a lot of no longer
    used by us equipment. Met him at a Cracker Barrel, our first experience
    with one of them. (G)

    Looks good but what, exactly, (know it's an Asian seasoning but is
    it RH> easily obtainable?) is Chaat masala? Where would I find it; I
    don't know RH> of any Indian/Pakistani grocery stores in the area?

    Chaat Masala literally translates to Snack Spice. For best results,
    make your own. I used some that my mother made. Here are recipes:


    Title: Homemade Chaat Masala
    Categories: Indian, Spices
    Yield: 4 Tablespoon


    Title: Chaat Masala
    Categories: Indian, Spices
    Yield: 1 Batch

    Title: Homemade Chaat Masala (Hot & Tangy Indian Spice Blend)
    Categories: Indian, Spices
    Yield: 3 /4 cups

    OK, thanks. We have a new Indian restaurant in Wake Forest, went to it a
    few weeks ago. I asked for a heat level 5 (They said they'd do 1-10) for
    butter chicken but will probably drop back to a 4 next time we go. It
    was good, just a bit hotter than I like.

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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ben Collver@1:105/500 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jan 22 09:08:41 2026
    Re: Uncle Dirty Dave
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Tue Jan 20 2026 12:36 pm

    That was a long time before any of us knew him. He was also big into Commodore computers, especially the Amigas. Steve started with a Commodore 64; when he switched to a PC, he gave Dave a lot of no longer used by us equipment. Met him at a Cracker Barrel, our first experience with one of them. (G)

    That's cool that he was enthusiastic about Commodore computers. I've never touched an Amiga, but i played arcade cames loaded from cassette tape on a VIC-20. Also, a friend handed down a Commodore 128 to me, which i gave to another friend. I kind of wish i had held onto the Commodore 128 because i think its dual-CPU architecture is technically interesting.

    My Dad was a computer professional all his adult career, and that VIC-20
    was the first home computer he ever owned. The one that William Shatner
    hawked on TV. Dad told me later that he was pretty excited to get a
    computer of his very own. He and Mom worked together to make a video game about logging trees. She made the graphics and he wrote the code.

    Did UDD ever tell you what he ended up doing with those C=64's? I knew
    someone who used an obsolete computer in their kitchen for recipes.

    OK, thanks. We have a new Indian restaurant in Wake Forest, went to it a few weeks ago. I asked for a heat level 5 (They said they'd do 1-10) for butter chicken but will probably drop back to a 4 next time we go. It was good, just a bit hotter than I like.

    I like to leave the chiles whole so that people can pick them out and self-adjust the heat level. Not that this applies to Chaat Masala.

    Yesterday my cousin took me to a place where i got bok choy and snap peas
    that were a little past date. I planned to make fake Chinese food using spaghetti noodles, but Mom dug out some actual Chinese noodles from the cupboard. I julienned carrots, onions, washed & sliced the bok choy, and trimmed & halved the snap peas cross-wise. I sauteed the carrots and
    onions together in a large wok-like frying pan. Then i added the
    remaining vegetables, garlic, ginger paste, and 6 whole arbol chiles. I
    boiled the noodles for 2-1/2 minutes, drained them, and turned them into
    the frying pan. Later i added Braggs aminos, sesame oil, and walnuts. It turned out well and everyone ate seconds.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Creole Pork Sausage
    Categories: Cajun, Sausages
    Yield: 18 Servings

    4 lb Lean fresh pork, butt, or
    - shoulder
    2 lb Fresh pork fat
    2 c Onion; finely minced
    1 1/2 tb Garlic; finely minced
    1 1/2 ts Cayenne
    1/2 ts Chili powder
    1 ts Crushed red pepper flakes
    8 ts Salt
    2 ts Red pepper; freshly ground
    2 ts Dried thyme leaves; crushed
    5 tb Parsley; finely chopped
    3 Bay leaves; finely crushed
    1/2 ts Allspice
    sm Sausage casing (9')
    - (optional)

    This Creole pork sausage is an old local favorite dating back to the
    19th Century, but isn't as easy to find as it once was. It would seem
    to have come to Louisiana with the Spanish, and was adapted to local
    custom and ingredients; the term is similar to the Spanish chorizo.
    It's great with white or red beans, and good for breakfast too, with
    eggs!

    Cut the pork at fatback into small pieces. Mix together and run once
    through the coarse disc of a meat grinder, into a large bowl. Add the
    seasonings and mix thoroughly until the stuffing is very smooth and
    well-blended.

    Make into patties, and use within three days or freeze.

    Also, you can stuff the chaurice into casings; make each sausage
    about 6" in length.

    Recipe by Chef John Folse, Gumbo Pages

    Posted by: Ed P <esp@snet.n>

    Recipe FROM: <news:10i7lgt$2eau2$1@dont-email.me>,
    <news:rec.food.cooking/1579104>

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  • From MIKE POWELL@1:2320/195 to BEN COLLVER on Fri Jan 23 08:46:00 2026
    That's cool that he was enthusiastic about Commodore computers. I've never

    He was also a fan of Formula 1 racing. I tried to get him interested in IndyCar but he'd have none of it. ;)

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Fri Jan 23 19:40:57 2026
    Hi Ben,

    That was a long time before any of us knew him. He was also big into Commodore computers, especially the Amigas. Steve started with a Commodore 64; when he switched to a PC, he gave Dave a lot of no longer used by us equipment. Met him at a Cracker Barrel, our first experience with one of

    That's cool that he was enthusiastic about Commodore computers. I've never touched an Amiga, but i played arcade cames loaded from cassette tape on a VIC-20. Also, a friend handed down a Commodore 128 to me,
    which i gave to another friend. I kind of wish i had held onto the Commodore 128 because i think its dual-CPU architecture is technically interesting.

    We used the C=64 for 10 years. My dad started out with a Texas
    Instruments computer, I forget what model, but he was quite impressed
    with what the C=64 could do. Not enough to buy one tho. (G) Our younger daughter wasn't quite 4 when we got it her dad typed in a number of
    learning programs that she enjoyed, going to progressively harder ones
    as she grew older.

    My Dad was a computer professional all his adult career, and that
    VIC-20 was the first home computer he ever owned. The one that BC>
    William Shatner hawked on TV. Dad told me later that he was pretty BC>
    excited to get a BC> computer of his very own. He and Mom worked
    together to make a video BC> game about logging trees. She made the
    graphics and he wrote the BC> code.

    My dad got into doing computer services (payroll, bookkeeping, etc) for
    others (in a town of about 800) after he lost his newspaper (editor,
    small town weekly) job, just short of turning 60. He wanted to do
    something the right way; boss said "do it this way". Dad said "I quit"
    just before boss said "you're fired". Townsfolk stood behind Dad; he
    stood firm in his position. No pension out of it but between his
    business for 20 years, mom working as a librarian (school first,then
    town) and retirement from that, they did well. IIRC, they were done
    paying college tuition for us kids before he lost the newspaper job.

    Did UDD ever tell you what he ended up doing with those C=64's? I
    knew someone who used an obsolete computer in their kitchen for BC>
    recipes.

    I really don't remember; he may have but it's been long enough ago that
    it's well out of my memory.


    OK, thanks. We have a new Indian restaurant in Wake Forest, went to it a few weeks ago. I asked for a heat level 5 (They said they'd do 1-10) for butter chicken but will probably drop back to a 4 next time we go. It was good, just a bit hotter than I like.

    I like to leave the chiles whole so that people can pick them out and self-adjust the heat level. Not that this applies to Chaat Masala.

    I'll take them either way. From what the weather forecasters are saying,
    the heat of them will be appreciated in the next week or so. Starting
    tomorrow night, we're in for snow, sleet and freezing rain for about 24
    hours, then really cold temperatures for another 10 days or so. I made
    up a pan of baked oatmeal today for quick, hot breakfasts--slice off a
    section, add a bit of milk and put it in the microwave (as long as the
    power stays on) for a minute or so, then enjoy.


    Yesterday my cousin took me to a place where i got bok choy and snap
    peas that were a little past date. I planned to make fake Chinese
    food using spaghetti noodles, but Mom dug out some actual Chinese
    noodles from the cupboard. I julienned carrots, onions, washed &
    sliced the bok choy, and trimmed & halved the snap peas cross-wise. I sauteed the carrots and
    onions together in a large wok-like frying pan. Then i added the remaining vegetables, garlic, ginger paste, and 6 whole arbol chiles.
    I boiled the noodles for 2-1/2 minutes, drained them, and turned them
    into the frying pan. Later i added Braggs aminos, sesame oil, and
    walnuts. It turned out well and everyone ate seconds.

    Sounds good to me. Steve found some goat meat in the freezer last night;
    I'm going to put it in a crock pot with some peppers, onions, and
    tomatoes for an easy sorta chili tomorrow.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Sun Jan 25 16:42:29 2026
    Hi Ben,

    My dad got into doing computer services (payroll, bookkeeping, etc) for others (in a town of about 800) after he lost his newspaper (editor, small position. No pension out of it but between his business for 20 years, mom working as a librarian (school first,then town) and retirement from that,

    Interesting, so both UDD and your Dad had experience publishing.

    Dad had quite a bit of publishing work (work published) since he was a
    stringer for high school sports while he was in high school, in the
    ship's office (he was the captain's talker on one ship) during WWII,
    then summer breaks in college working for newspapers. He also worked in
    the office of the lumber yard where his dad worked; I remember him
    telling us that his mom wanted him to quit school and work full time for $.15/hour--this was around 1935. He went back to high school, first in
    his family to graduate and go to college (on the GI Bill).

    OTOH, Mom went to college right out of high school, then got married and started raising the kids. When she took the school library position, she
    was told by the state that she had to get certified and her Master's
    degree within 5 years. State said "you can't do it; you're married with children" but she proved then wrong and did it, earning all A's and B's.

    Publishing, bookkeeping, and library work all strike me as social
    in BC> nature, though a lot of the actual work is "behind the scenes"
    so to BC> say. BC> It sounds like your Dad did bookkeeping on that
    Texas Instruments BC> computer? Did either of your parents ever "take
    you to work" with BC> them? If so, what do you remember that being
    like?

    I helped my mom some in the school library but by the time she retired
    from that and took the town library job, I was married, had my own
    family and lived too far away to help on a regular basis. Did go with
    her to work a couple of times when visiting home (same with Dad when he
    started his computer business) but was more of a chance to visit with
    locals who came in while I was there.


    Sounds good to me. Steve found some goat meat in the freezer last night; I'm going to put it in a crock pot with some peppers, onions, and tomatoes for an easy sorta chili tomorrow.

    Do i recall correctly that "sorta" cuisine means improvising with
    what's on hand?

    Basically, yes. I pulled out the baby crock pot, put the meat, a cut up
    onion, a can of tomatoes, and a couple of small cans worth (subdivided
    large can) of diced chili peppers in it, let it cook on low all day.
    For supper, I cooked some spiral pasta and we served the "chili" over
    that. Steve spiced him up a bit with chipotle powder but it was good as
    is for a cold day.

    We've had sleet, snow and freezing rain today, good day to stay inside.
    I'm just going to heat a slice of ham, some blue Hubbard squash (found
    in the freezer) and make Israeli couscous for supper.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ben Collver@1:105/500 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Jan 27 06:30:56 2026
    Re: Uncle Dirty Dave
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Sun Jan 25 2026 04:42 pm

    Hi Ruth,

    Thanks for the reminiscing about your folks' careers. I like the part where when told your mother was told she couldn't, she did it anyway.

    I befriended the guy in charge of in-house printing where i worked. He had old-fashioned equipment in the basement. He used to run the local paper,
    and told stories about battling with aging equipment there too. He was
    quite a character.

    I forget which branch of the military he was in, but he went to Germany in WWII. He told me they had set up schools in Austria where they were
    training people to step into German government positions after taking possession of the USA. He said they had it all planned out as though it
    were a done deal.

    One story he told me was organizing a fund raiser. He advertised it as a topless car wash, but left out that it would be done by the Boy Scouts.
    There was a big turnout, including many of the local preachers who showed
    up to protest.

    Basically, yes. I pulled out the baby crock pot, put the meat, a cut up onion, a can of tomatoes, and a couple of small cans worth (subdivided large can) of diced chili peppers in it, let it cook on low all day. For supper, I cooked some spiral pasta and we served the "chili" over that. Steve spiced him up a bit with chipotle powder but it was good as is for a cold day.

    That sounds delicious to me. It has been cold here too. Yesterday i made
    a crockpot of split pea soup. It was edible but not as awesome as usual.
    I blame the expired carton of broth. It'll likely be better next time.

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    Title: Generic German Sausage
    Categories: German, Sausages
    Yield: 1 Batch

    50 lb Beef or venison; ground
    50 lb Fresh pork;
    - ground, not too lean
    1 3/4 c Salt; sack salt; not Iodized
    3 oz Morton quick cure
    3 oz Black pepper
    2 oz Garlic powder;
    - fresh garlic is best
    3 Garlic heads;
    - peeled, sliced, smashed

    Mix all the ingredients together and add up to 2 qt cold water when
    mixing.

    Sausage is ready to put in casings.

    Put garlic in a pint jar, pour boiling water over it to fill jar.
    Strain the garlic out and use juice, as much as desired to taste.
    Start the garlic a day before sausage.

    Posted by: Ed P <esp@snet.n>

    Recipe FROM: <news:10i7lgt$2eau2$1@dont-email.me>,
    <news:rec.food.cooking/1579104>

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Tue Jan 27 12:38:47 2026
    Hi Ben,

    Thanks for the reminiscing about your folks' careers. I like the part where when told your mother was told she couldn't, she did it anyway.

    She had to go to summer school (about 250 miles away) for part of it;
    as oldest daughter I got the brunt of cooking, cleaning, etc. Did me
    well when I left home to get married, neither of my sisters could hardly
    boil water when they left home. I tell Steve that I got most (not quite
    all) of my cooking mistakes out before we got married.

    I befriended the guy in charge of in-house printing where i worked.
    He had old-fashioned equipment in the basement. He used to run the
    local paper, and told stories about battling with aging equipment
    there too. He was quite a character.

    Sounds like fun. I remember going to the News (Catskill Mountain News)
    office when I was younger, seeing them print the paper. They had to feed
    the sheets of paper in one at a time, then pull out and change the
    plates to do the other side. Then it was put thru a cutter and folder
    machine.

    I forget which branch of the military he was in, but he went to BC>
    Germany in WWII. He told me they had set up schools in Austria where
    they were BC> training people to step into German government
    positions after taking BC> possession of the USA. He said they had it
    all planned out as though BC> it were a done deal.

    Probably Army but working for OSS (precurser to CIA) or a similar
    agency. Sounds interesting; I wonder how much of it he could have made
    public in a book. It would be interesting reading.

    One story he told me was organizing a fund raiser. He advertised it
    as a topless car wash, but left out that it would be done by the Boy Scouts. There was a big turnout, including many of the local preachers
    who showed up to protest.

    Sounds worse than it ended up being. Quite the "hook" to get a turn out
    tho.


    Basically, yes. I pulled out the baby crock pot, put the meat, a cut up onion, a can of tomatoes, and a couple of small cans worth (subdivided large can) of diced chili peppers in it, let it cook on low all day. For supper, I cooked some spiral pasta and we served the "chili" over that. Steve spiced him up a bit with chipotle powder but it was good as is for a cold day.

    That sounds delicious to me. It has been cold here too. Yesterday i
    made a crockpot of split pea soup. It was edible but not as awesome
    as usual. I blame the expired carton of broth. It'll likely be better next time.

    I did a chicken casserole and caesar salad last night. Tonight will
    probably left overs, clean out the fridge a bit. We're slowly thawing
    out but the weather folks are saying we could get hit with another storm
    on Saturday.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ben Collver@1:105/500 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jan 29 07:38:06 2026
    Re: Publishing, Crockpots
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Tue Jan 27 2026 12:38 pm

    She had to go to summer school (about 250 miles away) for part of it; as oldest daughter I got the brunt of cooking, cleaning, etc. Did me well
    when I left home to get married, neither of my sisters could hardly boil water when they left home. I tell Steve that I got most (not quite all) of my cooking mistakes out before we got married.

    That sounds hardcore in my book. I also helped out around the house, but to
    a lesser extent. I still had many cooking mistakes to make after moving out. It's interesting how varied the experience is for different siblings in the same family. Just out of curiosity, were you the eldest?

    Probably Army but working for OSS (precurser to CIA) or a similar agency. Sounds interesting; I wonder how much of it he could have made public in a book. It would be interesting reading.

    Now that you mention it, i think he was in the Army. I am not sure what role he was in there... He also told me stories about working in the ship yards
    in Portland, OR, building ships for the war effort. It sounded like he came from a poor family, but his parents were more loving than normal. He said
    they always gave their children choices, explaining what the consequences
    would be of each choice, and they always gave them a space of their own
    where they could go if they did not want to be disturbed.

    He was working while in his 80's. At that time he told me his health
    insurance cost $900 per month. He said that even if they paid him nothing
    it would still be worth going to work in order to have health insurance at
    his age.

    He had been married a bunch of times, and was divorced a few times and
    a widower a few times. When i knew him he lived quite alone, though i
    helped him set up video conferencing with his daughter who lived in
    another state.

    The indoor kittie is sick. She has a fever, dilated pupils, and is
    moving around very slowly. She hadn't eaten for several days and finally
    ate a little this morning. I hope that means she's on the mend.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Irish Sausage
    Categories: Sausages, Irish
    Yield: 1 Batch

    5 lb Pork butt; coarse ground
    3 ts Thyme
    5 c Bread crumbs
    3 ts Basil
    4 Eggs; lightly beaten
    3 ts Rosemary
    8 cl Garlic; pressed
    3 ts Marjoram
    1 tb Salt
    3 ts Black pepper
    2 c Water

    Combine all ingredients, mix well, and stuff into sheep casings. Fry
    in butter or oil.

    Posted by: Ed P <esp@snet.n>

    Recipe FROM: <news:10i7lgt$2eau2$1@dont-email.me>,
    <news:rec.food.cooking/1579104>

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Thu Jan 29 14:17:03 2026
    Hi Ben,

    She had to go to summer school (about 250 miles away) for part of it; as oldest daughter I got the brunt of cooking, cleaning, etc. Did me well
    when I left home to get married, neither of my sisters could hardly boil water when they left home. I tell Steve that I got most (not quite all) of my cooking mistakes out before we got married.

    That sounds hardcore in my book. I also helped out around the house,
    but to a lesser extent. I still had many cooking mistakes to make
    after moving out. It's interesting how varied the experience is for different siblings in the same family. Just out of curiosity, were
    you the eldest?

    In my growing up, the guys weren't expected to do any of the cooking.
    I'm the second oldest of 5, first girl. I had (now deceased) an older brother,others still living are younger sister, younger brother and
    youngest sister. All of them did their share of criticising my cooking
    but didn't do much to help; younger sister did do some baking but as a
    small part of a few meals. Dad wasn't a creative eater which helped
    then, but after getting married, then Steve joining the Army really
    expanded my cooking horizons. Of all my siblings, I have had the most adventuresome life and it is reflected in my cooking/eating.

    Probably Army but working for OSS (precurser to CIA) or a similar
    agency. RH> Sounds interesting; I wonder how much of it he could have
    made public in a RH> book. It would be interesting reading.

    Now that you mention it, i think he was in the Army. I am not sure
    what role he was in there... He also told me stories about working in
    the ship yards in Portland, OR, building ships for the war effort. It sounded like he came from a poor family, but his parents were more
    loving than normal. He said they always gave their children choices, explaining what the consequences would be of each choice, and they
    always gave them a space of their own where they could go if they did
    not want to be disturbed.

    Sounds like his parents were definatly taking a different path to child rearing--makes me wonder (my sociology/psychology studies coming
    out--G--) what their childhood was like. They were too old to be of the
    hippie generation where that sort of child raising was more common.

    He was working while in his 80's. At that time he told me his
    health BC> insurance cost $900 per month. He said that even if they
    paid him BC> nothing it would still be worth going to work in order to
    have health BC> insurance at his age.

    It does sound like he had his priorities straight. We've always had good
    health insurance--at both places where Steve worked prior to joining the
    Army and then the military care. We're both on Medicare and Tricare for
    Life now, the latter is a benefit of 26 years of military service.


    He had been married a bunch of times, and was divorced a few times and
    a widower a few times. When i knew him he lived quite alone, though i helped him set up video conferencing with his daughter who lived in another state.

    Steve set my parents up with Skype for a couple of years. They enjoyed
    talking with their granddaughters that way. Mom and Dad both passed away
    before Zoom but we've used it to talk to our girls and their families.

    The indoor kittie is sick. She has a fever, dilated pupils, and is
    moving around very slowly. She hadn't eaten for several days and
    finally ate a little this morning. I hope that means she's on the
    mend.

    Poor kitty, hope she gets better quickly. We can't have any dogs or cats
    but sometimes take care of our neighbor's cocker spaniel. His vet
    reccommended that he have 2 or 3 spoonsful of green beans (canned) with
    his kibble--never heard of that before. Our cocker spaniel would eat
    most anything but I don't remember him eating green beans. His favorite
    human food was popcorn. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ben Collver@1:105/500 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Feb 3 06:39:12 2026
    Re: Publishing, Crockpots
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Thu Jan 29 2026 02:17 pm

    Hi Ruth,

    Sounds like his parents were definatly taking a different path to child rearing--makes me wonder (my sociology/psychology studies coming out--G--) what their childhood was like. They were too old to be of the hippie generation where that sort of child raising was more common.

    He didn't say anything about his parents' childhood, though he did say that they were descended from fairly recent immigrants from an eastern European country, i forgot which. He was too old to be a hippie, let alone his
    parents. He did tell me that his mother became a widow and she moved in
    with him when she couldn't take care of herself any more. He remembered
    her kindness and made sure she had her own place to retreat to where she wouldn't be disturbed.

    Poor kitty, hope she gets better quickly. We can't have any dogs or cats but sometimes take care of our neighbor's cocker spaniel. His vet reccommended that he have 2 or 3 spoonsful of green beans (canned) with
    his kibble--never heard of that before. Our cocker spaniel would eat most anything but I don't remember him eating green beans. His favorite human food was popcorn. (G)

    Sunday the indoor kitty recovered to the point where she could walk again
    and she spent the afternoon napping in the sun outside. I have hope!

    A friend of mine had two dogs with arthritis. He gave them a combination
    of 4 ingredients, CBD, Kelp, and i forgot the other two. Said it helped
    a lot.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Broccoli Fridge Clean Out Soup
    Categories: Soups
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 Celery ribs; diced
    2 md Carrots; diced
    1/2 lg Red onion; diced
    1 lg Broccoli head
    1 lg Zucchini
    8 oz Shiitake mushrooms (225 g)
    1 Garlic head;
    - roasted, use half if
    - you're not a big garlic
    - fan
    3 c Vegetable broth; up to 4 c
    3 c Hearty greens; your choice
    2 ts Oregano (2 g)
    Salt & pepper; to taste
    1 tb Vegan butter (14 g)
    1/2 tb Oil (7 ml)
    1/2 c Vegan coconut cream or
    - plant-based milk;
    - up to 1 c,
    - for extra creaminess
    - (optional)
    Grilled cheese croutons;
    - for topping (optional)

    Preparation time: 15 minutes
    Cooking time: 45 minutes

    Eliminate waste and make a delicious dinner with this Broccoli Fridge
    Clean-Out Soup! Rich and creamy, with optional grilled cheese
    croutons.

    In a large pot, heat butter and oil over medium heat. Add the diced
    celery, carrots, and onion with a sprinkle of salt and pepper. Saute
    for 8 to 10 minutes.

    Stir in the oregano and 1 cup of hearty greens around the 5 minute
    mark. Cook until the greens are wilted.

    Add the roasted vegetables, vegetable broth (start with 3 cups), and
    roasted garlic. Bring to a simmer and cook for at least 5 minutes, or
    up to 20 minutes for deeper flavor.

    Transfer to a blender (or use an immersion blender). Add the
    remaining 2 cups of hearty greens and blend until smooth. Add more
    broth if needed to adjust thickness.

    Stir in vegan coconut cream or plant milk for an even silkier texture.

    Top with grilled cheese croutons and enjoy!

    Preheat your oven to 400?F (200?C). Spread the broccoli, zucchini,
    and mushrooms on a baking tray and roast for 30 minutes. Roasting
    brings out a rich, deep flavor.

    Recipe by Jessica Hylton

    Recipe FROM:
    <https://jessicainthekitchen.com/broccoli-fridge-clean-out-soup/>

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Tue Feb 3 14:44:03 2026
    Hi Ben,

    Sounds like his parents were definatly taking a different path to child rearing--makes me wonder (my sociology/psychology studies coming out--G--) what their childhood was like. They were too old to be of the hippie generation where that sort of child raising was more common.

    He didn't say anything about his parents' childhood, though he did say that they were descended from fairly recent immigrants from an eastern European country, i forgot which. He was too old to be a hippie, let alone his

    Sort of wish you could have talked with him some more? Every so often
    I'll read something about somebody I never knew or knew for part of my
    past life and realise I never knew that. Especially with people I knew;
    it would have added a new dimension to our friendship.

    parents. He did tell me that his mother became a widow and she moved
    in with him when she couldn't take care of herself any more. He remembered her kindness and made sure she had her own place to retreat
    to where she wouldn't be disturbed.

    Sweet! At one point we thought my dad would pre-decease my mom (He was 7
    years older and had several health issues.) and we would be the ones to
    take mom in. As things worked out, she developed Alzheimer's ane we had
    to put her into care for that. She predeceased Dad by 3 years; he went
    into a nursing home a couple of months after her death. As things are
    turning out, we're not caring for Steve's parents either--Dad passed
    away 4 years ago, Mom is in assisted living.

    Poor kitty, hope she gets better quickly. We can't have any dogs or
    cats RH> but sometimes take care of our neighbor's cocker spaniel. His
    vet RH> reccommended that he have 2 or 3 spoonsful of green beans
    (canned) with RH> his kibble--never heard of that before. Our cocker
    spaniel would eat most RH> anything but I don't remember him eating
    green beans. His favorite human RH> food was popcorn. (G)

    Sunday the indoor kitty recovered to the point where she could walk
    again and she spent the afternoon napping in the sun outside. I have hope!

    Sounds like she's getting her motor recharged.

    A friend of mine had two dogs with arthritis. He gave them a
    combination of 4 ingredients, CBD, Kelp, and i forgot the other two.
    Said it helped a lot.

    Whatever works. We had to rehome our last cat when she developed some
    health issues. It got to the point where we told the vet to either find
    someone willing to take on a cat with health issues or put her down. The
    vet was thinking surgery (which we couldn't afford would be the next
    option and we were moving (military) in a short time. The vet found an
    older couple, willing to take on a cat with health challenges; they fell
    in love with Jenny-cat when we brought her to meet them. Hopefully she
    lived a long, happy life.


    Title: Broccoli Fridge Clean Out Soup
    Categories: Soups
    Yield: 4 Servings

    Sounds like what I've done different times. I've made "Monday (or
    whatever night of the week it's made) Night Surprise" as a clean out
    odds and ends from the fridge meal. Last night tho, I made rouladen,
    flank steak pounded thin or round steak cuts, spread with mustard,
    topped with a dill pickle spear and slice of bacon, then browned, and
    braised, chopped onion in the braise broth. The broth is made into
    gravy. Served with red cabbage and mische brot (German sourdough, found
    at Wegman's. I may cook some noodles to go with the left overs later
    this week.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ben Collver@1:105/500 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Feb 5 07:25:05 2026
    Re: Publishing, Crockpots
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Tue Feb 03 2026 02:44 pm

    Hi Ruth,

    Sort of wish you could have talked with him some more? Every so often I'll read something about somebody I never knew or knew for part of my past
    life and realise I never knew that. Especially with people I knew; it
    would have added a new dimension to our friendship.

    Well, i wish i could still talk with him. An odd bit of trivia: like my grandmother he was left handed and was punished in school if he wrote or
    drew with his left hand.

    Sounds like she's getting her motor recharged.

    Yes, she is bouncing back nicely now. She is much more mobile, though i
    see her making false starts with her jumps. Something is going on with her hind legs, and i suspect it is neurological. A friend tells me to make
    sure she is getting enough taurine, but i doubt that's the problem because
    she eats grocery store pet food and i've read that's not generally a
    problem.

    "Since 1987, taurine has been adequately provided in commercially prepared
    cat foods approved by the American Association of Feed Control Officials (AAFCO)."

    The vet found an
    older couple, willing to take on a cat with health challenges; they fell
    in love with Jenny-cat when we brought her to meet them. Hopefully she lived a long, happy life.

    What a wonderful story!

    The indoor cat i mentioned here is a rescue cat, though she didn't have any health problems when she moved in.

    Sounds like what I've done different times. I've made "Monday (or whatever night of the week it's made) Night Surprise" as a clean out odds and ends from the fridge meal. Last night tho, I made rouladen, flank steak pounded thin or round steak cuts, spread with mustard, topped with a dill pickle spear and slice of bacon, then browned, and braised, chopped onion in the braise broth. The broth is made into gravy. Served with red cabbage and mische brot (German sourdough, found at Wegman's. I may cook some noodles to go with the left overs later this week.

    Wow, your leftover fridge cooking turned out to be full-fledged German restaurant food. I'd invite myself to your table.

    Recently i made cole slaw and put in too much mayo. I could have added more cabbage to balance it out, but i found another remedy. I used it as a
    sandwich topping along with radish and cheese slices. The cole slaw also
    has beets and vinegar in it, and the sandwiches are vaguely reminiscent of reuben sandwiches.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Roasted Zucchini
    Categories: Vegetables, Zucchini
    Yield: 1 Batch

    Zucchini

    Cut into quarters lengthwise, put some salt on it, roast on an oiled
    oven tray at 220?C (425?F) for 15 minutes.

    Recipe FROM:
    <gopher://tellus.strangled.net/0/recipes/Roasted_Courgette>

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Fri Feb 6 22:07:20 2026
    Hi Ben,

    Sort of wish you could have talked with him some more? Every so often I'll read something about somebody I never knew or knew for part of my past
    life and realise I never knew that. Especially with people I knew; it
    would have added a new dimension to our friendship.

    Well, i wish i could still talk with him. An odd bit of trivia: like
    my grandmother he was left handed and was punished in school if he
    wrote or drew with his left hand.

    I'm also left handed, somewhat ambidexterous as for some years my
    parents tried making me right handed. I don't recall what prompted the
    switch but I do some things right handed still, some left handed only
    and some I'll use either or hand. Comes in handy (no pun intended) when stirring a pot that needs continuous stirring; I can change hands when
    one gets tired.


    Sounds like she's getting her motor recharged.

    Yes, she is bouncing back nicely now. She is much more mobile, though
    i see her making false starts with her jumps. Something is going on
    with her hind legs, and i suspect it is neurological. A friend tells
    me to make
    sure she is getting enough taurine, but i doubt that's the problem
    because she eats grocery store pet food and i've read that's not
    generally a
    problem.

    I wouldn't know, never researched cat food that extensivly. At one point
    the vet wanted us to try a lamb and rice diet with Jenny-cat. Ever see a
    cat go on a hunger strike and push the bowl away? She did; that stuff
    was nasty so the vet said to put her back on her usual Purina One cat
    chow.

    The vet found an
    older couple, willing to take on a cat with health challenges; they fell
    in love with Jenny-cat when we brought her to meet them. Hopefully she lived a long, happy life.

    What a wonderful story!

    The indoor cat i mentioned here is a rescue cat, though she didn't
    have any health problems when she moved in.

    I miss her at times. She had been abused as a kitten and put in a
    (German) animal shelter, adopted, with another cat, from there and then
    both cats given to friends of ours. When they went back to the States,
    they only wanted to take one cat so offered us the (extremely) shyer of
    the two. We decided "yes", one night while Steve and I were visiting
    (before the family moved), Jenny-cat came out of hiding and parked
    herself on my lap. The wife gasped "she's never done that before"; we
    took it as a sign that the cat wanted us for her new family. She was
    very shy, even when we had her, but opened up more in a quiet household.
    She was a grey tabbly with beautiful green eyes.

    Sounds like what I've done different times. I've made "Monday (or whatever night of the week it's made) Night Surprise" as a clean out odds and ends from the fridge meal. Last night tho, I made rouladen, flank steak pounded thin or round steak cuts, spread with mustard, topped with a dill pickle spear and slice of bacon, then browned, and braised, chopped onion in the braise broth. The broth is made into gravy. Served with red cabbage and mische brot (German sourdough, found at Wegman's. I may cook some noodles to go with the left overs later this week.

    Wow, your leftover fridge cooking turned out to be full-fledged German restaurant food. I'd invite myself to your table.

    Some nights are better than others; tonight was a meal out at the Angus
    Barn in Raleigh (Google it) for a wedding reception. Not sure what
    tomorrow will bring.


    Recently i made cole slaw and put in too much mayo. I could have
    added more cabbage to balance it out, but i found another remedy. I
    used it as a
    sandwich topping along with radish and cheese slices. The cole slaw
    also has beets and vinegar in it, and the sandwiches are vaguely reminiscent of reuben sandwiches.

    I make my cole slaw with cabbage, carrots and pineapple; my MIL gave me
    the recipe decades ago and it's still our all time favorite. Haven't
    found a cole slaw that measures up to it yet. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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