• Re: Russian Hamburgers

    From Dave Drum@1:396/45 to Ben Collver on Sun Nov 9 06:28:32 2025
    Ben Collver wrote to All <=-

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Russian Hamburgers
    Categories: Beef, Russian
    Yield: 1 Batch

    1 1/2 lb Lean ground beef
    1/2 Cabbage; chopped
    1 md Onion; chopped
    3 tb Worcestershire sauce
    3 tb Soy sauce
    1 ts Garlic powder
    1 ts Celery salt
    1/4 ts Black pepper
    1 pk Yeast
    1/4 c Water; warm
    3 1/2 c Flour
    1 ts Salt
    1/4 c Sugar
    1/4 c Shortening
    1 c Milk; scalded &
    - allowed to cool
    1 lg Egg; slightly beaten

    If I wanna do Russian Hamburgers I've got the Real Boris (McCoy's
    Russian cousin) Badinov at my fingertips. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Classic Kotlety
    Categories: Beef, Pork, Breads, Vegetables, Herbs
    Yield: 8 servings

    1 lb Ground beef (80/20)
    1 lb ground pork
    1/2 Loaf French bread loaf;
    - crusts removed
    1 lg Egg; lightly beaten
    1 md Onion; chopped
    2 cl Garlic; pressed
    2 tb Minced dill weed
    Dried bread crumbs; pref
    - roasted ("kalenye suhari",
    - available in Russian
    - stores)
    Salt
    fresh ground black pepper
    Vegetable oil

    Saute the onion in vegetable oil, stirring, until it is
    golden-brown. Remove from heat and set aside.

    Soak the bread in cold water for about 15-20 minutes.
    Squeeze dry and put through a meat grinder, or process
    into a paste. Combine beef, pork, processed bread,
    onion, garlic, egg, and dill. Season with salt and
    generously with black pepper. Mix well.

    You can check the seasonings by frying or microwaving a
    small piece of the mixture.

    Make oval-shaped cakes (containing approximately 2 tbsp
    each of the mixture). The cakes should be about 3/4 inch
    thick. (If you rinse your hands with tepid water from
    time to time, it will prevent the mixture from sticking
    to your fingers.)

    Warm some vegetable oil in a large skillet. Roll the
    kotlety in bread crumbs until completely coated and fry
    over high heat until they are well-done and have a nice
    brown crust on the outside, 5-7 minutes per side. (In
    many Russian kitchens, kotlety are not breaded before
    frying, so as to make them lower in fat and calories.
    The traditional recipe, however, calls for breading.)

    Source: Redisca via Olga Timokhina

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.ruscuisine.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

    ... January 20, 2025 - Error Redux
    ___ MultiMail/Win v0.52

    --- Maximus/2 3.01
    * Origin: Sursum Corda! BBS-Huntsville,AL-bbs.sursum-corda.com (1:396/45)
  • From Dave Drum@1:124/5016 to Ben Collver on Tue Nov 11 08:31:28 2025
    Ben Collver wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Re: Re: Russian Hamburgers
    By: Dave Drum to Ben Collver on Sun Nov 09 2025 06:28 am

    Title: Russian Hamburgers

    If I wanna do Russian Hamburgers I've got the Real Boris (McCoy's Russian cousin) Badinov at my fingertips. Bv)=

    Title: Classic Kotlety

    Thanks! I'll keep it.

    To my mind, the Real Boris is the one who is Natasha's accomplice. :)

    Back when one could easily change the sound bite that Windoze used as
    it opened I had a clip of Boris saying "Fool-proof, yes.Idiot proof?
    Noooooo" Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Stuffed Cabbage
    Categories: Beef, Cabbage, Stuffed veg
    Yield: 12 Servings

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: June Meyer's Authentic Hungarian Stuffed Cabbage (Sorma)
    Categories: Pork, Beef, Vegetables, Herbs
    Yield: 6 Servings

    3/4 lb Ground pork *
    3/4 lb Ground beef *
    1/2 lb Hungarian sausage or mild
    - Pepperoni; sliced 1"
    2 lg Raw eggs
    2 ts Salt
    1 tb Paprika
    1/2 ts Peppercorns
    3/4 lb Raw rice
    2 lg Turkish bay (laurel) leaves
    2 lg White onions; chopped
    3 tb Shortening, peanut oil or
    - lard
    1 lg Head cabbage
    32 oz Bottle or bag sauerkraut;
    - rinsed in cold water

    * you can also make it with all ground beef

    Brown the chopped onion in shortening, and place in
    mixing bowl with ground meats, raw eggs, uncooked rice,
    paprika, salt.

    Mix well with your clean hands.

    Take out the core of the cabbage. Leave head whole.
    Place in large pot of boiling water to wilt the outer
    leaves. You will be able to gently pull off whole
    cabbage leaves. Trim off thick center vein of cabbage
    leaves. Make a pile of leaves on your work station. You
    may want to shake excess water off.

    Place 2 Tbsp. of meat and rice mixture on a leaf
    (starting at the thick end) and roll it up and tuck in
    ends with your finger.

    Make as many as you can. Arrange the rolls in cooking
    pot. Put a few chunks of sausage here and there between
    the rolls.

    Cover the rolls two-thirds full of water, arrange rinsed
    sauerkraut on top, sprinkle over the peper corns and the
    bay leaves on top, COVER and cook slowly for about 1 1/2
    hours, or until the rice is tender.

    The rolls are piled on a bed of silky sauerkraut.

    Serves 6. (Serve with good crusty bread and cold beer.)

    June Meyer's Authentic Hungarian Heirloom Recipes Cookbook

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.junemeyer.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

    ... Bad: Manhattan clam chowder. Worse: Clam Manhattans
    === MultiMail/Win v0.52
    --- SBBSecho 3.31-Linux
    * Origin: End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com (1:124/5016)
  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to BEN COLLVER on Tue Nov 11 09:40:05 2025
    Thanks! I'll keep it.

    To my mind, the Real Boris is the one who is Natasha's accomplice. :)

    Oh, yes, "Moose and Squirrel..." ;)

    Mike


    * SLMR 2.1a * Tagline dispenser temporarily out of order.
    --- SBBSecho 3.28-Linux
    * Origin: capitolcityonline.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/HTTP (1:2320/105)
  • From Ben Collver@1:105/500 to Dave Drum on Mon Nov 10 07:38:48 2025
    Re: Re: Russian Hamburgers
    By: Dave Drum to Ben Collver on Sun Nov 09 2025 06:28 am

    Title: Russian Hamburgers

    If I wanna do Russian Hamburgers I've got the Real Boris (McCoy's Russian cousin) Badinov at my fingertips. Bv)=

    Title: Classic Kotlety

    Thanks! I'll keep it.

    To my mind, the Real Boris is the one who is Natasha's accomplice. :)

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Stuffed Cabbage
    Categories: Beef, Cabbage, Stuffed veg
    Yield: 12 Servings

    1 lg Cabbage
    3 lb Ground beef
    1 lg Onion; diced small
    1 Egg
    1 c Minute Rice
    1 oz A-1 steak sauce
    2 tb Heinz 57 sauce
    2 tb Ketchup
    28 oz Can sauerkraut
    1 ts Salt
    56 oz Crushed tomatoes (2 cans)

    Preheat oven to 350?F.

    Remove core from head of cabbage. Place in a large pot, add enough
    water to cover head. Remove cabbage, season water with salt to taste,
    and bring to a boil.

    While the water is heating, mix ground beef, onion, eggs, and rice.
    Mix well. Add A-1 sauce, Heinz sauce, and ketchup, mix with hands
    until blended.

    When water boils, add cabbage head carefully. Cook until outer leaves
    loosen. Remove loose leaves to a jelly roll pan to cool as they become
    soft. Do not overcook! Repeat until all leaves are removed. Cut tough
    center stalk from each leaf.

    Starting with large leaf, lay out on flat surface. Take a fistful of
    the ground beef mixture and place in the middle of leaf. Roll up,
    tucking in sides. Repeat until you have filled a roasting pan. I use
    a very large roasting pan and make rolls until I run out of meat or
    cabbage. Cover cabbage rolls evenly with sauerkraut, and cover all
    with crushed tomatoes. Cover roasting pan and bake for approximately
    2 hours.

    I make these in a big batch as they freeze well and we have extra
    meals. Also for convenience, I put two to a ziploc bag and freeze. A
    quick lunch!

    Suggestions:

    If you run out of meat and have cabbage left: Put cabbage in a small
    saucepan, cover with water, add onion, and pepper. Cook until tender.

    If you have ground beef left: Roll into meatballs, lay on top of the
    tomatoes in roasting pan and cook or saute in small flying pan until
    done. Store in plastic ziploc bag for later quick meal. Can be
    frozen. In a small saucepan, add 1 tb oil. Add thawed meatballs. Open
    can of cream of mushroom soup, add to saucepan. Add a little water to
    make gravy. I use a couple of drops of Kitchen Bouquet Browning &
    Seasoning sauce to get it to a nice brown color. Simmer for 15 to 20
    minutes. Serve with almost anything!

    Recipe by Margaret Young

    MMMMM
    --- SBBSecho 3.23-Win32
    * Origin: The Fool's Quarter, fqbbs.synchro.net (1:105/500)
  • From Ben Collver@1:105/500 to Dave Drum on Tue Nov 11 09:02:49 2025
    Re: Re: Russian Hamburgers
    By: Dave Drum to Ben Collver on Tue Nov 11 2025 08:31 am

    Back when one could easily change the sound bite that Windoze used as it opened I had a clip of Boris saying "Fool-proof, yes.Idiot proof? Noooooo"

    *grin* That sounds totally appropriate.

    Here's a link to the dinosaur animation that was an option in Windows NT
    to replace the hour-glass mouse pointer.

    <https://github.com/nairby/dinosaur>

    ---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Idiot Bread Pizza
    Categories: Breads, Pizza
    Yield: 4 Servings

    Dough:
    1 pk Yeast
    1 tb Sugar
    4 c Flour
    2 c Water; hot
    1 ts Salt
    Topping:
    3 c Tomato pizza sauce
    12 oz Mozzarella cheese
    1 lb Hamburger, sausage, or
    - pepperoni

    Dissolve yeast in warm water. Add sugar, salt, and flour. Mix well
    with spoon and spread in two greased 9x13" pans. Let rise for
    1 hour.

    Spread about 3 cups of your favorite tomato pizza sauce on top. Add
    12 oz shredded Mozzarella cheese and 1 lb cooked hamburger,
    sausage, or pepperoni.

    Put pizza in oven preheated to 500?F; reduce heat immediately to
    400?F and bake 35 minutes or until cheese is melted.

    -----
    --- SBBSecho 3.23-Win32
    * Origin: The Fool's Quarter, fqbbs.synchro.net (1:105/500)
  • From Ben Collver@1:105/500 to Mike Powell on Tue Nov 11 09:04:11 2025
    Re: Re: Russian Hamburgers
    By: Mike Powell to BEN COLLVER on Tue Nov 11 2025 09:40 am

    To my mind, the Real Boris is the one who is Natasha's accomplice. :)

    Oh, yes, "Moose and Squirrel..." ;)

    Many of them are on the Internet Archive:

    <https://archive.org/search?query=%28title%3A%28bullwinkle+vol%29+OR+ title%3A%28bullwinkle+volume%29%29+AND+mediatype%3A%28movies%29
    &sort=title>
    --- SBBSecho 3.23-Win32
    * Origin: The Fool's Quarter, fqbbs.synchro.net (1:105/500)
  • From Ben Collver@1:105/500 to All on Sat Nov 8 07:06:39 2025
    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Russian Hamburgers
    Categories: Beef, Russian
    Yield: 1 Batch

    1 1/2 lb Lean ground beef
    1/2 Cabbage; chopped
    1 md Onion; chopped
    3 tb Worcestershire sauce
    3 tb Soy sauce
    1 ts Garlic powder
    1 ts Celery salt
    1/4 ts Black pepper
    1 pk Yeast
    1/4 c Water; warm
    3 1/2 c Flour
    1 ts Salt
    1/4 c Sugar
    1/4 c Shortening
    1 c Milk; scalded &
    - allowed to cool
    1 lg Egg; slightly beaten

    Meat Mixture:

    Chop and fry together ground beef, cabbage, and onion. Add
    Worcestershire sauce, soy sauce, garlic powder, celery salt, and
    pepper. Cool 5 minutes. Add 3 or 4 tb flour so it is sticky.

    Bun Mixture:

    Soften yeast in warm water. Meanwhile, sift flour with salt and
    sugar, and cut shortening in until mixture resembles coarse meal.
    Stir in yeast, milk, and egg, knead briefly, and allow to rise until
    doubled in size.

    Turn out onto floured board and knead a few times. Roll out to 1/4"
    thickness and cut into 3" rounds. Spoon some meat mixture onto one
    round, top with a second round, and seal edges. Repeat until all
    rounds are filled. Bake in 375?F oven for about 20 minutes.

    Recipe by Sharon Barnard Dibble

    MMMMM
    --- SBBSecho 3.23-Win32
    * Origin: The Fool's Quarter, fqbbs.synchro.net (1:105/500)
  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ben Collver on Wed Nov 12 07:25:22 2025
    Ben Collver wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Back when one could easily change the sound bite that Windoze used as it opened I had a clip of Boris saying "Fool-proof, yes.Idiot proof?
    Noooooo"

    *grin* That sounds totally appropriate.

    Here's a link to the dinosaur animation that was an option in Windows
    NT to replace the hour-glass mouse pointer.

    <https://github.com/nairby/dinosaur>

    Never fussed with NT. I was an Amiga guy. Best drop this or take it to
    Classic confusers before Mr. Moderator puts a shot across our bows.

    There was a lot of subtle adult humour in the Jay Ward output mixed in
    with the Rocky & Bullwinlke kid pleasaers.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Moose & Squirrel Meat Balls *
    Categories: Game, Sauces, Dairy, Meatballs
    Yield: 8 Servings

    3 lb Ground moose and squirrel;
    - any proportion
    6 sl Soft white bread
    1/2 c Water
    1/3 c Butter
    1 1/3 c Chopped onion
    Salt & fresh ground pepper
    2 tb Chopped parsley
    2 tb Flour
    1 1/2 c Milk

    * AKA "The Rocky & Bullwinkle Special"

    Especially useful recipe if main ingredients have been
    dead for 24 or more hours before harvested.

    Soak bread in water five minutes. Squeeze excess water
    out. Melt four tablespoons butter in skillet. Saute'
    onion in butter until tender. Combine moose & squirrel
    meat, squeezed bread, four teaspoons salt, 1/2 teaspoon
    pepper and parsley.

    Form mixture into 1"/2.5cm balls. Chill 20 minutes. Heat
    remaining butter in skillet. Brown moose & squirrel
    balls on all sides. Cover skillet and cook slowly 15
    minutes.

    Remove balls to warm platter. Sprinkle flour over skillet
    drippings. Stir and cook 1 minute. Stir in milk & bring
    to boil. Season to taste with salt & pepper.

    Return moose & squirrel balls to skillet. Simmer 4
    minutes more.

    Serves 8 w/pasta

    Roadkill Recipes; www.globe-guardian.com/archives/

    MM Format by Dave Drum - 12 September 1997

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

    ... MS-DOS=suit & tie, Macintosh=cool shades, Amiga=high heels & leather
    --- MultiMail/Win
    * Origin: Outpost BBS * Johnson City, TN (1:18/200)
  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to BEN COLLVER on Wed Nov 12 09:59:16 2025
    To my mind, the Real Boris is the one who is Natasha's accomplice. :)

    Oh, yes, "Moose and Squirrel..." ;)

    Many of them are on the Internet Archive:

    <https://archive.org/search?query=%28title%3A%28bullwinkle+vol%29+OR+ title%3A%28bullwinkle+volume%29%29+AND+mediatype%3A%28movies%29
    &sort=title>

    Thanks! IIRC, it has been a while since I've looked but I think at least
    one season of them has/was also posted to youtube, apparently by the show's current "owner."

    Mike

    * SLMR 2.1a * User: The hardest-to-setup PC peripheral you can buy.
    --- SBBSecho 3.28-Linux
    * Origin: capitolcityonline.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/HTTP (1:2320/105)
  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Thu Nov 13 09:46:50 2025
    Dave Drum wrote to Ben Collver <=-

    Never fussed with NT. I was an Amiga guy. Best drop this or take it to Classic confusers before Mr. Moderator puts a shot across our bows.

    I'm not that bad, am I? :O

    I know the moderator over in CLASSIC_COMPUTERS. Seems like a nice guy.

    There was a lot of subtle adult humour in the Jay Ward output mixed in with the Rocky & Bullwinlke kid pleasaers.

    There was a lot of it in "Spongebob Squarepants" also. The creator
    always denied that but it was indeed there. I never watchged it on my
    own but my second wife likes thge show so I picked that up by osmosis.
    XD

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Grape Nut Bread
    Categories: Cyberealm, Kooknet, Breads, Breakfast
    Yield: 2 Servings

    1 c Grape nuts
    2 c Buttermilk
    2 c Sugar
    2 Eggs
    3 1/2 c Flour
    1/2 ts Salt
    1 ts Baking soda
    2 ts Baking powder

    Soak grapenuts in buttermilk for 10 minutes. Beat sugar and eggs
    together in a large bowl. Add milk/Grapenuts mixture. Sift flour,
    salt, soda, and powder together, and stir thoroughly into the Grape
    Nuts mixture. Pour into 2 greased and floured 9 x 5 inch loaf pans
    and bake at 350F for 45 minutes, or until toothpick comes out clean.
    Makes 20 servings.

    Nutritional info per serving: 190 calories; 4 gm protein; 42 gm
    carbohydrates; 1 gm fat; .4 gm fiber; 22 mg cholesterol; 199 mg
    sodium. Exchanges: .1 milk, 2.7 bread, .1 meat, .1 fat

    Source: Watertown Daily Times Typed in MM format by Linda Fields,
    Cyberealm BBS and home of Kook-Net Watertown, NY 315-786-1120

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

    ... Alan's Second Law: never eat anything bigger than your head.
    --- MultiMail/Win
    * Origin: Outpost BBS * Johnson City, TN (1:18/200)
  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DAVE DRUM on Fri Nov 14 11:10:21 2025
    I went from Rocky & Bullwinkle right to South Park. Didn't even pause at
    the Simpsons. Bv)=

    Simpsons viewer here. I never really got into South Park until about 10
    years ago when I dated someone who liked it a lot. I found their earlier episodes to be a lot more sophomoric than the Simpsons, or even 1990s Beavis and Butthead, but not near as bad as most of Seth McFarland's stuff.

    I do watch SP now, though.

    Mike

    * SLMR 2.1a * My other vehicle is a Galaxy Class Starship
    --- SBBSecho 3.28-Linux
    * Origin: capitolcityonline.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/HTTP (1:2320/105)
  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Fri Nov 14 17:58:17 2025
    Dave Drum wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    Dunno. Ask Shawn Highfield.

    I'll withhold comment.

    Being a moderaroe is a thankless gig.

    It is, especially in today's Fidonet and the lack of respect for the
    rules, especially from some in Zone 2.

    Title: Chocolate Salty Balls

    If you listen to the song of the same name, Issac Hayes sings the actual
    recipe for his bespoken food. LOL

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Danish Meat Balls
    Categories: Cyberealm, Ethnic, Meats, Appetizers
    Yield: 30 Servings

    MMMMM-------------------------MEATBALLS------------------------------
    1 lb Ground beef
    1/3 c Catsup
    2 ts Worcestershire sauce
    1/2 ts Salt
    1/8 ts Pepper
    3 ds Tabasco
    1/2 Green pepper (minced fine)

    MMMMM---------------------------SAUCE--------------------------------
    3/4 c Catsup
    1/2 c Water
    1/4 c Cider vinegar
    3 tb Brown sugar
    1 1/2 ts Salt
    1 ts Pepper
    3 ds Tabasco
    2 ts Soy sauce
    2 ts Sugar

    MEATBALLS: Mix well & form into balls the size of walnuts. Cook
    over low heat until done but not brown.

    SAUCE: Simmer approximately 20 minutes. Pour over meat balls.

    Source: Found floating around BBSLand

    * The Polka Dot Palace - The BBS for Homemakers! 1-201-822-3627 *
    Posted by LISA on 09-11-95

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

    ... Dewey, Cheatem, and Howe: Attorneys at Law
    --- MultiMail/Win
    * Origin: Outpost BBS * Johnson City, TN (1:18/200)
  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Sean Dennis on Sat Nov 15 08:50:00 2025
    Sean Dennis wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Dunno. Ask Shawn Highfield.

    I'll withhold comment.

    I understand. I told him (via e-mail) to chill

    Being a moderaroe is a thankless gig.

    It is, especially in today's Fidonet and the lack of respect for the rules, especially from some in Zone 2.

    Is Zone 2 Yurp or Azia?

    Title: Chocolate Salty Balls

    If you listen to the song of the same name, Issac Hayes sings the
    actual recipe for his bespoken food. LOL

    You do know that Isaac voiced the Chef character for South Park, tight?

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Danish Meat Balls
    Categories: Cyberealm, Ethnic, Meats, Appetizers
    Yield: 30 Servings

    Meatballs is varied. Here's a fave:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dirty Dave's Spicy Meatballs
    Categories: Five, Pork, Cheese, Breads, Vegetables
    Yield: 24 Meatballs

    2 lb Hot Italian sausage
    1/2 c Bread crumbs
    1/2 c Thin sliced green onions
    4 tb Grated Parmesan or Asiago
    2 lg Eggs

    In medium bowl, add sausage, bread crumbs, onions,
    cheese and egg. Mix thoroughly.

    Shape into 24 meatballs.

    Cook over med-low heat, turning frequently, until brown.

    Or, you can bake them @ 350ºF/175ºC for 35 or so minutes
    until cooked through. A wire rack over a sheet pan lets
    the grease drip away if you're averse to all the yummy
    fat.

    Serves 6 with pasta and red gravy

    Also makes scrumptious meatball subs using 6" (15cm)
    "hoagie" rolls w/marinara and some mozzarella cheese.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM


    ... Beware of computer techs dragging in a pair of 100 amp jumper leads...
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.52
    * Origin: SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTAR (1:3634/12)

Novedades:

Servidor de Quake 3 Arena Online! - Conectate a ferchobbs.ddns.net, puerto 27960 y vence con tu equipo!