RUTH HAFFLY wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-
You might be surprised. Carlinville (population under 4,000) had an amazing mix of people with European ancestry. While the bulk of the population was of UK, German or Italian descent there were enough of French, Czech, Polish, Greek, etc. ethnicity to give an eclectic mix.
Did they all keep to their own ethnic cooking or did it (d)evolve into
the average American cooking eventually?
I helped withb the "putting up". But other than jams and jellies or
the occasional batch of fruit preserves - moslty "sealed" with
paraffin - I've not done any "canning" on my own. The freezer is so
much more handy.
Big advantage of canning is that you're not spending energy to keep it "put up" Jars can be stowed anywhere and don't need power. Also frees
up the freezer for stocking perishables like meats, breadstuffs and
such like.
address, etc. I use "zero" and may do phonetic letters like "apple", "hairy", etc. Not the same as the military but the same principle.
We hear all kinds of substitutions on the radio, generally from folks who've not had any exposure to the NATO phonetic alphabet (usually in
the military. The NATO alphabet is supposed to be used but some of the older hams will come up with all sorts of variations.
I grew up in the Able Bake Charlie era. Not the Alpha Bravo Charlie
that came later.
My dad was in the former era also so when one of our cats had kittens,
he designated them Able, Baker, Charlie and Dog, figuring they'd all
find homes and new names. First 3 did find home, took mama over for spaying and she died on the operating table (genetic heart defect, we found out others in the same line had died young). We needed a cat for
the mousekeeping chores so kept Dog and kept her name.
So long as the meaning is clear. When people ask my sur-name I tell
them "Drum. Like the musical instrument." Bv)= And I'm hard to beat.
Groan. I usually ask (if not in a military context) if the person is familiar with the NATO alphabet. If they respond positively, I'll then
say "Hotel/Alpha/Foxtrot/Foxtrot/Lima/Yankee, first name Romeo/Uniform/Tango/Hotel. Gets their attention. (G) On the phone a lot
of people hear "s" instead of "f" so by using the NATO alphabet, it's clear.
Especially when dealing with a telemarketer or customer "service" rep
for whom English is *not* a firdt languager.
Most of the former don't make it past the call screening program.
MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06
Title: Crispy Pan-Seared Freshwater Drum
Categories: Seafood, Vegetables, Citrus, Herbs
Yield: 4 servings
Looks similar to chicken picotta, which I'm doing for supper tonight.
Michael and I had an on-going battle about the use of capers (which I
can live a long and happpy life without) being a requirement for
piccta. Even after I posted him a recipe from Larousse Gastronomique
(a source he loved to cite/quote) he never gave up. Bv)=
I use them; we both like them in the picotta. The first time (of
several, made by the same cook) we had this, it had capers in it so I found a close enough to his recipe that had the capers & use that. The cook that made it the first time(s) we had it is retired from the FDNY.
Title: Chicken Piccata
Categories: Poultry, Citrus, Wine
Yield: 2 Servings
* You can sub bottled capers for the scallions if you must
have capers in your piccata. But they are not necessary.
Skin and bone the breast halves. Butterfly them if extra
thick. Pound to 1/4" - 1/3" thick (I use a heavy rolling
pin and really lean into it).
We mince a good sized clove of garlic and brown it slightly in oilve
oil as the first step in making the sauce.
Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-
Did they all keep to their own ethnic cooking or did it (d)evolve into
the average American cooking eventually?
They each seemed to have a "special" dish that they clunng to. But
ther rest of their diets were the usual mish-mash.
As long as they have something of the old country to bring back
memories and introduce the first (and subsequent) generation to the old world food, they will do well. Those that move to any new area and try
to hold on to all of their past do not assimilate as easily. That's
partly why we tried new foods wherever we moved--and some became fast favorites.
8<----- ||||| ----->8
I grew up in the Able Bake Charlie era. Not the Alpha Bravo Charlie
that came later.
My dad was in the former era also so when one of our cats had kittens,
he designated them Able, Baker, Charlie and Dog, figuring they'd all
find homes and new names. First 3 did find home, took mama over for spaying and she died on the operating table (genetic heart defect, we found out others in the same line had died young). We needed a cat for
the mousekeeping chores so kept Dog and kept her name.
I'll bet that got some raised eyebrows. I got adopted by a cat that
had been mutilated (de-clawed) who lowwlowed me around like a dog. So
It sure did! And then she had kittens. (G) They were born the day the Apollo 11 astronauts took off so we designated them Neil, Buzz, Michael and Diana (Roman goddess of the moon--I was taking Latin in high
school). They all found homes so we kept Dog for some time longer.
I named hor "Spot" not knowing, since I never watched Star Dreck thar
one of the characters in the space opera had a cat named Spot. After several years she devloped some sort of kitty AIDS and I had to have
her euthanised. I buried her behing the garage and had Krumsieck
Monument inscribe a hunk of granite with "SPOT - A pretty good cat"
Only pet I ever put a stone up to commemorate.
Sounds like she was worth it. Dad buried our pets on the back hill but none of them ever got a headstone.
Especially when dealing with a telemarketer or customer "service" rep
for whom English is *not* a firdt languager.
Most of the former don't make it past the call screening program.
Except when the screener get it wrong. Mine had Dennis' son down as a "generic robo-caller" until I went in a straightened it out. Bv)=
Sounds like a programming glitch.
Skin and bone the breast halves. Butterfly them if extra
thick. Pound to 1/4" - 1/3" thick (I use a heavy rolling
pin and really lean into it).
We mince a good sized clove of garlic and brown it slightly in oilve
oil as the first step in making the sauce.
Title: Cauliflower Piccata
Categories: Vegetables, Beans, Citrus, Herbs
Yield: 4 servings
I'll stick with the chicken but if I need to do a vegetarian one, I'll
use tofu.
They each seemed to have a "special" dish that they clunng to. But
ther rest of their diets were the usual mish-mash.
As long as they have something of the old country to bring back
memories and introduce the first (and subsequent) generation to the old world food, they will do well. Those that move to any new area and try
to hold on to all of their past do not assimilate as easily. That's
partly why we tried new foods wherever we moved--and some became fast favorites.
And thus is born "fusion" cuisine. Some of which is very nice. But
some dishes should be "left as found". I have things in every cuisie I have
sampled over a long and checkered culinary journey that I prefer in
the original rather than fusion. Moussaka is one of those.
8<----- ||||| ----->8
I grew up in the Able Bake Charlie era. Not the Alpha Bravo Charlie
that came later.
My dad was in the former era also so when one of our cats had kittens,
he designated them Able, Baker, Charlie and Dog, figuring they'd all
find homes and new names. First 3 did find home, took mama over for spaying and she died on the operating table (genetic heart defect, we found out others in the same line had died young). We needed a cat for
the mousekeeping chores so kept Dog and kept her name.
I'll bet that got some raised eyebrows. I got adopted by a cat that
had been mutilated (de-clawed) who lowwlowed me around like a dog. So
It sure did! And then she had kittens. (G) They were born the day the Apollo 11 astronauts took off so we designated them Neil, Buzz, Michael and Diana (Roman goddess of the moon--I was taking Latin in high
school). They all found homes so we kept Dog for some time longer.
And King Chuck's first wife (Ms.Spencer) was ot yet Princess Dianna.
Bv)=
I named hor "Spot" not knowing, since I never watched Star Dreck thar
one of the characters in the space opera had a cat named Spot. After
several years she devloped some sort of kitty AIDS and I had to have
her euthanised. I buried her behing the garage and had Krumsieck
Monument inscribe a hunk of granite with "SPOT - A pretty good cat"
Only pet I ever put a stone up to commemorate.
Sounds like she was worth it. Dad buried our pets on the back hill but none of them ever got a headstone.
Spot is the cat who slurped the sauce off of the pasta and meat,
leaving iton the saucer when I shared my supper with her one evening.
She was a might hunter - used to bring me bunnies ad birds she had
nailed - and her with no claws on her front end.
8<----- VUT ----->8
Except when the screener get it wrong. Mine had Dennis' son down as a "generic robo-caller" until I went in a straightened it out. Bv)=
Sounds like a programming glitch.
If so it's no "You Mail" which is a pretty decent voice mail app.It
does voice playback as well as translatio0 to text.
Skin and bone the breast halves. Butterfly them if extra
thick. Pound to 1/4" - 1/3" thick (I use a heavy rolling
pin and really lean into it).
We mince a good sized clove of garlic and brown it slightly in oilve
oil as the first step in making the sauce.
Title: Cauliflower Piccata
Categories: Vegetables, Beans, Citrus, Herbs
Yield: 4 servings
I'll stick with the chicken but if I need to do a vegetarian one, I'll
use tofu.
I likes me cauliflower. I have yet to discover a way that I don't
like.
Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-
They each seemed to have a "special" dish that they clunng to. But
ther rest of their diets were the usual mish-mash.
As long as they have something of the old country to bring back
memories and introduce the first (and subsequent) generation to the old world food, they will do well. Those that move to any new area and try
to hold on to all of their past do not assimilate as easily. That's
partly why we tried new foods wherever we moved--and some became fast favorites.
And thus is born "fusion" cuisine. Some of which is very nice. But
some dishes should be "left as found". I have things in every cuisine
I have sampled over a long and checkered culinary journey that I
prefer in the original rather than fusion. Moussaka is one of those.
I think most things are better in their original than in a fusion.
Fusion doesn't always take the best of all contributions and make something better; sometimes it ends up much worse than any of its components.
8<----- ||||| ----->8
I grew up in the Able Bake Charlie era. Not the Alpha Bravo Charlie
that came later.
My dad was in the former era also so when one of our cats had kittens,
he designated them Able, Baker, Charlie and Dog, figuring they'd all
find homes and new names. First 3 did find home, took mama over for spaying and she died on the operating table (genetic heart defect, we found out others in the same line had died young). We needed a cat for
the mousekeeping chores so kept Dog and kept her name.
I'll bet that got some raised eyebrows. I got adopted by a cat that
had been mutilated (de-clawed) who lowwlowed me around like a dog. So
It sure did! And then she had kittens. (G) They were born the day the Apollo 11 astronauts took off so we designated them Neil, Buzz, Michael and Diana (Roman goddess of the moon--I was taking Latin in high
school). They all found homes so we kept Dog for some time longer.
And King Chuck's first wife (Ms.Spencer) was not yet Princess Dianna.
Bv)=
Yes, but this Diana was born when the future princess was only 8 years
old and hardly anybody knew her. Besides, the kitten was cuter. (G)
I named hor "Spot" not knowing, since I never watched Star Dreck thar
one of the characters in the space opera had a cat named Spot. After
IIRC, that was Data, a robot in "ST; The Next Generation". Steve
enjoyed that show and since the tv was in the living room, I heard it.
several years she devloped some sort of kitty AIDS and I had to have
her euthanised. I buried her behing the garage and had Krumsieck
Monument inscribe a hunk of granite with "SPOT - A pretty good cat"
Only pet I ever put a stone up to commemorate.
Sounds like she was worth it. Dad buried our pets on the back hill but none of them ever got a headstone.
Spot is the cat who slurped the sauce off of the pasta and meat,
leaving iton the saucer when I shared my supper with her one evening.
She was a might hunter - used to bring me bunnies ad birds she had
nailed - and her with no claws on her front end.
Our cats brought home mice, shrews, and the occaisional bird, even
fewer rabbits. More often than not, we would see a few remains and know that the hunter had found prey.
8<----- CUT ----->8
Except when the screener get it wrong. Mine had Dennis' son down as a "generic robo-caller" until I went in a straightened it out. Bv)=
Sounds like a programming glitch.
If so it's not "You Mail" which is a pretty decent voice mail app.It
does voice playback as well as translatio0 to text.
We get some wierd voice mail translations sometimes. (G)
Skin and bone the breast halves. Butterfly them if extra
thick. Pound to 1/4" - 1/3" thick (I use a heavy rolling
pin and really lean into it).
We mince a good sized clove of garlic and brown it slightly in oilve
oil as the first step in making the sauce.
Title: Cauliflower Piccata
Categories: Vegetables, Beans, Citrus, Herbs
Yield: 4 servings
I'll stick with the chicken but if I need to do a vegetarian one, I'll
use tofu.
I likes me cauliflower. I have yet to discover a way that I don't
like.
I like it too, but just thinking about what other alternatives to meat might work. I'd press the tofu to get most of the water out, then treat
it like the chicken cutlets.
RUTH HAFFLY wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-
And thus is born "fusion" cuisine. Some of which is very nice. But
some dishes should be "left as found". I have things in every cuisine
I think most things are better in their original than in a fusion.
Fusion doesn't always take the best of all contributions and make something better; sometimes it ends up much worse than any of its components.
As I said above "Some of which is very nice." And, of course, there
are some dishes which could gag a maggot out of a garbage can.
Steve would count anything made with bittermelon in that category.
Others would include durian. I like them both, in small amounts--can
enjoy more melon than durian tho. (G)
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Yes, but this Diana was born when the future princess was only 8 years
old and hardly anybody knew her. Besides, the kitten was cuter. (G)
I thought Ms. Spencer was quite attractive despite her blonde hair.
That's your opinion. Besides, what's wrong with being blonde? I was for
my childhood/early adulthood. It turned more brown over the years tho.
Our cats brought home mice, shrews, and the occaisional bird, even
fewer rabbits. More often than not, we would see a few remains and know that the hunter had found prey.
We had a shop cat at the satellite store. Callie was brought in when
one of the installers got her, barely weaned, from a clinet. Her
mother cat hadn't had time to teach her to hunt and eat her prey. She would nab a mouse and play with it until its little heart gave out.
Then ignore the thing. Once I put one of her victims in her food dish hoping she'd get the idea that it was food. Ms. Calico scooped the
mouse onto the floor and started crunching her kibble.
All depends on how they're raised in the first couple of months. I
can't recall our momma cats teaching their young how to hunt; kittens generally found homes around 8-10 weeks old. By then they knew how to
eat & drink from dishes.
As I said above "Some of which is very nice." And, of course, there
are some dishes which could gag a maggot out of a garbage can.
Steve would count anything made with bittermelon in that category.
Others would include durian. I like them both, in small amounts--can
enjoy more melon than durian tho. (G)
AFAIK I'venever had bitter melon on purpose, nor made anything with it
as an ingredient. Durian, OTOH, is a different story.
8<----- ||||| ----->8
I thought Ms. Spencer was quite attractive despite her blonde hair.
That's your opinion. Besides, what's wrong with being blonde? I was for
my childhood/early adulthood. It turned more brown over the years tho.
Sorry, platinum blondes/bottle blondes give the dishwater blondes a
bad name by association. Bv)= My favourite blonde has to be Dolly Parton.
8<----- XXXXX ----->8
Then ignore the thing. Once I put one of her victims in her food dish hoping she'd get the idea that it was food. Ms. Calico scooped the
mouse onto the floor and started crunching her kibble.
All depends on how they're raised in the first couple of months. I
can't recall our momma cats teaching their young how to hunt; kittens generally found homes around 8-10 weeks old. By then they knew how to
eat & drink from dishes.
Had Callie stayed with her dam for a few weeks past weaning Mom Cat
would have schooled her in foraging for her food.
Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-
As I said above "Some of which is very nice." And, of course, there
are some dishes which could gag a maggot out of a garbage can.
Steve would count anything made with bittermelon in that category.
Others would include durian. I like them both, in small amounts--can
enjoy more melon than durian tho. (G)
AFAIK I'venever had bitter melon on purpose, nor made anything with it
as an ingredient. Durian, OTOH, is a different story.
Hard to find bittermelon outside of an Asian market unless you are in Hawaii. (G) I never tried preparing it, just enjoyed it in some of the dishes our Philippino congregation made for pot lucks.
8<----- ||||| ----->8
I thought Ms. Spencer was quite attractive despite her blonde hair.
That's your opinion. Besides, what's wrong with being blonde? I was for
my childhood/early adulthood. It turned more brown over the years tho.
Sorry, platinum blondes/bottle blondes give the dishwater blondes a
bad name by association. Bv)= My favourite blonde has to be Dolly Parton.
She is a trip! But, she's very generous--gave I don't know how many millions of dollars to her employees a few years ago when wildfires
took out a lot of their houses. Also, last year, gave quite a bit
toward Helene relief in both NC and TN.
Then ignore the thing. Once I put one of her victims in her food dish hoping she'd get the idea that it was food. Ms. Calico scooped the
mouse onto the floor and started crunching her kibble.
All depends on how they're raised in the first couple of months. I
can't recall our momma cats teaching their young how to hunt; kittens generally found homes around 8-10 weeks old. By then they knew how to
eat & drink from dishes.
Had Callie stayed with her dam for a few weeks past weaning Mom Cat
would have schooled her in foraging for her food.
But she might not have been as easy to catch and civilize.
AFAIK I'venever had bitter melon on purpose, nor made anything with it
as an ingredient. Durian, OTOH, is a different story.
Hard to find bittermelon outside of an Asian market unless you are in Hawaii. (G) I never tried preparing it, just enjoyed it in some of the dishes our Philippino congregation made for pot lucks.
That would explain that. I'll have to look for it next time I'm down
to Little World Market or Asian Groceries to restock the miso paste.
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Had Callie stayed with her dam for a few weeks past weaning Mom Cat
would have schooled her in foraging for her food.
But she might not have been as easy to catch and civilize.
Oh, I don't know. I've a fair amount of history with barn//farm cats.
And the few times I've adopted from a shelter I sit on a chair amid
all of
the candidates and let one of them choose me - usually by climbing up
my leg and curling up in my lap.
Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-
AFAIK I'venever had bitter melon on purpose, nor made anything with it
as an ingredient. Durian, OTOH, is a different story.
Hard to find bittermelon outside of an Asian market unless you are in Hawaii. (G) I never tried preparing it, just enjoyed it in some of the dishes our Philippino congregation made for pot lucks.
That would explain that. I'll have to look for it next time I'm down
to Little World Market or Asian Groceries to restock the miso paste.
Buy a small one for starters. (G) I can't give you specific recipies
using it as I've not had any in close to 20 years, and then it was in dishes others made.
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Had Callie stayed with her dam for a few weeks past weaning Mom Cat
would have schooled her in foraging for her food.
But she might not have been as easy to catch and civilize.
Oh, I don't know. I've a fair amount of history with barn//farm cats.
And the few times I've adopted from a shelter I sit on a chair amid
all of
the candidates and let one of them choose me - usually by climbing up
my leg and curling up in my lap.
I'd have a lap full--Steve calls me a pet magnet. (G)
That would explain that. I'll have to look for it next time I'm down
to Little World Market or Asian Groceries to restock the miso paste.
Buy a small one for starters. (G) I can't give you specific recipies
using it as I've not had any in close to 20 years, and then it was in dishes others made.
My search engine shows me an object that looks more like a cucumber
than what I think of as a melon. And parsing the recipes I have as
well as
those on-line I don'tsee anything that piques my interest. <SHRUG>
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Had Callie stayed with her dam for a few weeks past weaning Mom Cat
would have schooled her in foraging for her food.
But she might not have been as easy to catch and civilize.
Oh, I don't know. I've a fair amount of history with barn//farm cats.
And the few times I've adopted from a shelter I sit on a chair amid
all of
the candidates and let one of them choose me - usually by climbing up
my leg and curling up in my lap.
I'd have a lap full--Steve calls me a pet magnet. (G)
We're currently tending/boarding three pooches. And every one of them
will come to if they need/want to hit the great outdoors. Even if
their grandpaw is standing/working right by the door.
I *do*have some bitter melon recipes
Title: Paksiw na Isda (Boiled Pickled Fish & Vegetables)
Categories: Seafood, Vegetables, Stews, Chilies
Yield: 4 Servings
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