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    From Dave Drum@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Aug 1 06:56:38 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Gotta cook to suit yourself.

    Which we do. When we get a steak to grill, Steve will split it in half, start my half a few minutes before putting his on the grill. Neither of
    us like the shoe leather we grew up with but a rare (for him) to medium (for me), seasoned and grilled just right is so good..........

    I don't est much steak these days. Rather hav a good pork chop for the
    most part. If I am doing steak I can eat anything from medium down to
    almost mooing. As long as it's not tough/chewy and has lots of flavour.

    I want to try this at least once before my number is called.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: NYT's Steak Tartare
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables
    Yield: 2 servings

    10 oz Highest-quality beef
    - tenderloin; trimmed,
    - leaving nothing but dark
    - red beef
    2 sl Dense, unleavened black
    - pumpernickel bread
    2 tb Unsalted Irish butter;
    - tempered to cool and
    - spreadable
    4 ts Dijon mustard
    2 ts (to 4 ts) Vegemite; to
    - taste
    1 sm Firm, shiny red onion;
    - peeled, thin sliced in
    - rings
    Coarse salt & fresh ground
    - black pepper
    2 tb Capers; in brine
    1 bn Watercress leaves; stems
    - saved for another use
    Celery leaves from one
    - bunch
    6 Sprigs parsley; rough
    - chopped
    2 tb Worcestershire sauce
    2 Egg yolks; raw
    +=OR=+
    1 Egg yolk; cooked

    Place the trimmed beef in the freezer for 20 minutes
    while you prep the rest of the ingredients. Meanwhile,
    butter the bread, wall to wall, then slather the mustard
    evenly among the two buttered slices. Finish each slice
    with a healthy schmear of the Vegemite.

    In a bowl, toss the red onion slices with a healthy
    pinch of salt, allowing the rings to separate, and
    soften a bit from the salting. Add the capers with a bit
    of their brine and the cress, celery leaves and parsley,
    and toss well, making a little salad.

    Working quickly, remove the meat from freezer. It will
    now be firm and easy to cut. Slice into 1/8" thin
    slices. (We often wear doubled-up latex gloves to help
    keep the heat from our hands from transferring to the
    beef. The warmer the meat, the more difficult to cut
    beautifully. Also, this is the occasion for your
    sharpest knife.) Shingle the meat slices ever so
    slightly, and slice into 1/8" matchsticks.

    Turn your cutting board 180 degrees, and cut the
    matchsticks into 1/8" tiny dice, resembling the cut
    called brunoise.

    Transfer your elegantly hand-chopped meat to a glass,
    stainless or ceramic bowl, and season with the
    Worcestershire sauce, a couple pinches of coarse kosher
    salt and a few good grinds of black pepper, and toss
    together distributing the seasoning, using a fork.

    Distribute the seasoned beef evenly between the two
    slices of buttered, seasoned bread, and form into a
    patty, more or less, still using the fork. Arrange the
    salad over the beef artfully, distributing evenly
    between the two portions. Give the whole enterprise a
    healthy finishing grind of black pepper.

    Nestle each yolk, still in its half shell if using raw,
    into the mound, and let each guest turn the yolk out
    onto the tartare before eating. If using cooked yolk,
    microplane the yolk over the tartare to finish.

    by Gabrielle Hamilton

    Yield: 2 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Fri Aug 1 13:53:27 2025
    Hi Dave,

    Gotta cook to suit yourself.

    Which we do. When we get a steak to grill, Steve will split it in half, start my half a few minutes before putting his on the grill. Neither of
    us like the shoe leather we grew up with but a rare (for him) to medium (for me), seasoned and grilled just right is so good..........

    I don't est much steak these days. Rather hav a good pork chop for the most part. If I am doing steak I can eat anything from medium down to almost mooing. As long as it's not tough/chewy and has lots of
    flavour.

    We eat both, probably not as many pork chops as steak tho. During hot
    weather, both will be grilled but will pull out the Foreman for doing
    chops in the winter.


    I want to try this at least once before my number is called.


    Title: NYT's Steak Tartare
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables
    Yield: 2 servings

    One of the German men in our church in Berlin (we had a very
    international congregation) made steak tartare a couple of times for
    small gatherings that we attended. Steve will comment on how good it
    was, from time to time; it made that much of an impression on him. We've
    yet to try making it at home; I'm not a fan of raw (or rare) meat.
    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Aug 3 04:31:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Gotta cook to suit yourself.

    Which we do. When we get a steak to grill, Steve will split it in half, start my half a few minutes before putting his on the grill. Neither of
    us like the shoe leather we grew up with but a rare (for him) to medium (for me), seasoned and grilled just right is so good..........

    I don't est much steak these days. Rather hav a good pork chop for the most part. If I am doing steak I can eat anything from medium down to almost mooing. As long as it's not tough/chewy and has lots of
    flavour.

    We eat both, probably not as many pork chops as steak tho. During hot weather, both will be grilled but will pull out the Foreman for doing chops in the winter.

    Spring and fall I might grill outside. The George gets year-around use. Especially in the summer when I let'd my grill without leaving the air conditioned kitche. Bv)=

    I want to try this at least once before my number is called.

    Title: NYT's Steak Tartare
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables
    Yield: 2 servings

    One of the German men in our church in Berlin (we had a very
    international congregation) made steak tartare a couple of times for
    small gatherings that we attended. Steve will comment on how good it
    was, from time to time; it made that much of an impression on him.
    We've yet to try making it at home; I'm not a fan of raw (or rare)
    meat. ---

    Steve probably was like you until he tried the actuality. I learned to
    "try it5 before your ditch it" when I was turninbg six and had a Yuck!
    reaction to the bean salad my mother waqs making. It looked very gross.
    But after being forced to try iy I found that I liked it. Bv)=

    Sometimes we haver to abandon our comfort zones.

    Something else my newest George is great for making:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Chicken Caesar Panini
    Categories: Breads, Vegetables, Poultry, Herbs
    Yield: 1 Serving

    2 sl Ciabatta bread
    1 tb Casear salad dressing
    2 sl (thick) tomato
    Handful fresh basil leaves
    1/2 ts Italian seasoning
    1 tb Olive oil
    4 oz Boned, skinned chicken
    Salt & pepper

    Preheat panini griddle over medium heat. Cook chicken on
    the griddle for 5 minutes, flip. Cook for additional 4-5
    minutes or until cooked through. Remove chicken. Slice
    into thin strips. Set aside.

    Brush both slices of bread with olive oil on one side.
    Sprinkle oiled side with Italian seasoning. Working
    quickly place oiled side down on hot griddle. Top with
    grilled chicken and Caesar salad dressing, tomato and
    basil. (Feel free to reserve basil and tomato for after
    it comes off the griddle if desired.) Top with the other
    slice of bread, oiled side up.

    Grill until browned and heated through.Enjoy!

    RECIPE FROM: https://gatherforbread.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Aug 3 21:02:22 2025
    Hi Dave,

    I don't est much steak these days. Rather hav a good pork chop for the most part. If I am doing steak I can eat anything from medium down to almost mooing. As long as it's not tough/chewy and has lots of
    flavour.

    We eat both, probably not as many pork chops as steak tho. During hot weather, both will be grilled but will pull out the Foreman for doing chops in the winter.

    Spring and fall I might grill outside. The George gets year-around
    use. Especially in the summer when I let'd my grill without leaving
    the air conditioned kitche. Bv)=

    Our grills are just outside the kitchen door. We'd rather heat up the
    already hot outside than heat the kitchen. I'll usually do sides that
    can be done wither without cooking or cooked in the microwave. Sometimes
    we'll wrap potatoes in foil and put them on the grill also; they take a
    bit more time but go well with a steak.


    I want to try this at least once before my number is called.

    Title: NYT's Steak Tartare
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables
    Yield: 2 servings

    One of the German men in our church in Berlin (we had a very
    international congregation) made steak tartare a couple of times for
    small gatherings that we attended. Steve will comment on how good it
    was, from time to time; it made that much of an impression on him.
    We've yet to try making it at home; I'm not a fan of raw (or rare)
    meat. ---

    Steve probably was like you until he tried the actuality. I learned to "try it5 before your ditch it" when I was turninbg six and had a Yuck!

    We were both brought up on steaks cooked to shoe leather so going to
    medium was a major step for us. A combination of the steak tartare and
    then reading about Michael eating it raw induced Steve to try it rare.
    I'd still rather have it somewhat more done.


    reaction to the bean salad my mother waqs making. It looked very
    gross. But after being forced to try iy I found that I liked it. Bv)=

    I will now eat turnips willingly, lima beans in something like Brunswick
    stew but still decline sweet potatoes, peanut butter, pumpkin pie, cocoanut--all things I was forced to eat (not try, it was "you must
    eat") as a child. I've not starved by not eating any of them tho.

    An interesting twist on the usual bean salad is to use both black and
    white, then something like soy beans--still 3 bean salad. (G)


    Sometimes we haver to abandon our comfort zones.

    And sometimes we stay in them.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Aug 5 07:39:20 2025
    RUTH HAFFLY wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    I don't est much steak these days. Rather hav a good pork chop for the most part. If I am doing steak I can eat anything from medium down to almost mooing. As long as it's not tough/chewy and has lots of
    flavour.

    We eat both, probably not as many pork chops as steak tho. During hot weather, both will be grilled but will pull out the Foreman for doing chops in the winter.

    Spring and fall I might grill outside. The George gets year-around
    use. Especially in the summer when I let'd my grill without leaving
    the air conditioned kitche. Bv)=

    Our grills are just outside the kitchen door. We'd rather heat up the already hot outside than heat the kitchen. I'll usually do sides that
    can be done wither without cooking or cooked in the microwave.
    Sometimes we'll wrap potatoes in foil and put them on the grill also;
    they take a bit more time but go well with a steak.

    The George doesn't heat the kitchen much. And I've got an indoor 'lectric
    grill that gets dragged out once in a while.

    I want to try this at least once before my number is called.

    Title: NYT's Steak Tartare
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables
    Yield: 2 servings

    One of the German men in our church in Berlin (we had a very
    international congregation) made steak tartare a couple of times for
    small gatherings that we attended. Steve will comment on how good it
    was, from time to time; it made that much of an impression on him.
    We've yet to try making it at home; I'm not a fan of raw (or rare)
    meat. ---

    Steve probably was like you until he tried the actuality. I learned to "try it5 before your ditch it" when I was turning six and had a Yuck!

    We were both brought up on steaks cooked to shoe leather so going to medium was a major step for us. A combination of the steak tartare and then reading about Michael eating it raw induced Steve to try it rare.
    I'd still rather have it somewhat more done.

    And "back in the day" beef tended to be leaner and thus chewier than is
    current practice. And nearly all grass-fed.

    reaction to the bean salad my mother waqs making. It looked very
    gross. But after being forced to try iy I found that I liked it. Bv)=

    I will now eat turnips willingly, lima beans in something like
    Brunswick stew but still decline sweet potatoes, peanut butter, pumpkin pie, cocoanut--all things I was forced to eat (not try, it was "you
    must eat") as a child. I've not starved by not eating any of them tho.

    I'll do turnips raw. Pelled, sliced, with a little salt. I can choke down cooked turnips if having to be polite. Otherwise I leave them in the dish.
    Lima beans/butter beans/etc. I like. My only food no-no is bologna.

    An interesting twist on the usual bean salad is to use both black and white, then something like soy beans--still 3 bean salad. (G)

    Sometimes we haver to abandon our comfort zones.

    And sometimes we stay in them.

    As long as the A.C. works.

    Tough steak and Lima beenz

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cafeteria Baked Steak & Lima Beans
    Categories: Beef, Beans, Pork, Cheese
    Yield: 8 Servings

    1 lb Dry lima beans
    6 c Water
    4 sl Bacon
    2 lb Round steak; in 1" strips
    48 oz Can tomato juice
    1 tb Packed brown sugar
    1/2 ts (ea) salt & black pepper
    1 ts Dry (Colman's) Mustard

    Rinse beans; add 6 cups of water. Bring to a boil;
    simmer 5 minutes. Remove from heat; let stand, covered,
    1 hour. Do not drain.

    After 1 hour cover, simmer 30 minutes.

    In Dutch oven, cook bacon til crisp. Drain, reserve
    dripping. Crumble bacon; set aside. Coat beef with
    flour. Brown beef in hot drippings, pour off excess
    fat.

    Stir in beans and onion. Combine toamto juice, brown
    sugar, salt, peper and mustard. Pour over beans and
    beef mizture.

    Bake covered in 325ºF/163ºC. oven til tender, about
    1 1/2 to 2 hours.

    Serve hot topped with crunbled bacon and grated cheese.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Aug 5 16:22:01 2025
    Hi Dave,


    Spring and fall I might grill outside. The George gets year-around
    use. Especially in the summer when I let'd my grill without leaving
    the air conditioned kitche. Bv)=

    Our grills are just outside the kitchen door. We'd rather heat up the already hot outside than heat the kitchen. I'll usually do sides that
    can be done wither without cooking or cooked in the microwave.
    Sometimes we'll wrap potatoes in foil and put them on the grill also;
    they take a bit more time but go well with a steak.

    The George doesn't heat the kitchen much. And I've got an indoor
    'lectric grill that gets dragged out once in a while.

    We grill year round. (G)


    I want to try this at least once before my number is called.

    Title: NYT's Steak Tartare
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables
    Yield: 2 servings

    One of the German men in our church in Berlin (we had a very
    international congregation) made steak tartare a couple of times for
    small gatherings that we attended. Steve will comment on how good it
    was, from time to time; it made that much of an impression on him.
    We've yet to try making it at home; I'm not a fan of raw (or rare)
    meat. ---

    Steve probably was like you until he tried the actuality. I learned to "try it5 before your ditch it" when I was turning six and had a Yuck!

    We were both brought up on steaks cooked to shoe leather so going to medium was a major step for us. A combination of the steak tartare and then reading about Michael eating it raw induced Steve to try it rare.
    I'd still rather have it somewhat more done.

    And "back in the day" beef tended to be leaner and thus chewier than
    is current practice. And nearly all grass-fed.

    German beef (at least in the time we were there, don't know if the EU
    has changed it) is all grass fed. Low and slow is a good way to cook it.
    First few months we were in Frankfurt, there was a kerfuffle about the commissary ordering too much beef so they gave it away (had to show ID)
    over several months. It was a combination of German and American beef;
    that was how I learned to cook German beef. (G)

    reaction to the bean salad my mother waqs making. It looked very
    gross. But after being forced to try iy I found that I liked it.
    Bv)=

    I will now eat turnips willingly, lima beans in something like
    Brunswick stew but still decline sweet potatoes, peanut butter, pumpkin pie, cocoanut--all things I was forced to eat (not try, it was "you
    must eat") as a child. I've not starved by not eating any of them tho.

    I'll do turnips raw. Pelled, sliced, with a little salt. I can choke
    down cooked turnips if having to be polite. Otherwise I leave them in
    the dish. Lima beans/butter beans/etc. I like. My only food no-no is bologna.

    Turnips are good in beef stew or the fancy French version, Pot au Feu.


    An interesting twist on the usual bean salad is to use both black and white, then something like soy beans--still 3 bean salad. (G)

    Sometimes we haver to abandon our comfort zones.

    And sometimes we stay in them.

    As long as the A.C. works.

    Working well now, actually backed off over the last few days as temps
    have cooled down. Today has been in the low/mid 70s with occaisional
    rain showers, pure D-lightful!

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Aug 7 06:34:09 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Spring and fall I might grill outside. The George gets year-around
    use. Especially in the summer when I let'd my grill without leaving
    the air conditioned kitche. Bv)=

    Our grills are just outside the kitchen door. We'd rather heat up the already hot outside than heat the kitchen. I'll usually do sides that
    can be done wither without cooking or cooked in the microwave.
    Sometimes we'll wrap potatoes in foil and put them on the grill also;
    they take a bit more time but go well with a steak.

    The George doesn't heat the kitchen much. And I've got an indoor
    'lectric grill that gets dragged out once in a while.

    We grill year round. (G)

    Since I cook for just me most of the time firing up and outside grill -
    even a gas grill - is more work than I want. The George and/or the plug
    in grill are much easier.

    And "back in the day" beef tended to be leaner and thus chewier than
    is current practice. And nearly all grass-fed.

    German beef (at least in the time we were there, don't know if the EU
    has changed it) is all grass fed. Low and slow is a good way to cook
    it. First few months we were in Frankfurt, there was a kerfuffle about
    the commissary ordering too much beef so they gave it away (had to show ID) over several months. It was a combination of German and American
    beef; that was how I learned to cook German beef. (G)

    And now I'm seeing ads (Humphrey's) for America raised "Wagyu beef"

    8<----- SHORTEN ----->8

    An interesting twist on the usual bean salad is to use both black and white, then something like soy beans--still 3 bean salad. (G)

    Sometimes we haver to abandon our comfort zones.

    And sometimes we stay in them.

    As long as the A.C. works.

    Working well now, actually backed off over the last few days as temps
    have cooled down. Today has been in the low/mid 70s with occaisional
    rain showers, pure D-lightful!

    We've had a break from the triple digits this week. But my prognosticator
    saays back into the upper 90s by the week-end. Out state fair starts today
    for its 10 day run. I'll not be going within a mile of that mess.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Garlic Butter Wagyu Beef
    Categories: Five, Beef, Herbs, Vegetables
    Yield: 1 steak

    1/2 lb American Wagyu Chuck Eye
    - Roll Steak; 1" thick
    Salt & ground black pepper
    1 tb Oil

    MMMMM----------------------GARLIC BUTTER-----------------------------
    1/2 tb Salted butter
    1 cl Garlic; minced
    1 tb Chopped parsley

    Pat the steak dry with paper towels, then season both
    sides with salt and ground black pepper. Set aside.

    Prepare the garlic butter by combining salted butter,
    minced garlic, and chopped parsley in a bowl. Mix well
    and refrigerate before using.

    Heat a cast-iron skillet on high heat until smoking hot,
    then add oil. Transfer the seasoned steak to the skillet
    and pan-sear one side (do not turn) for 2 minutes.
    Before flipping to the other side, sear the fatty edge
    of the steak until it is browned and aromatic.

    Then, turn the steak over and pan-sear the other side
    for 2 minutes. (Cook for an additional 1 to 2 minutes on
    each side, depending on the thickness of the steak.)
    Transfer the steak to a serving plate.

    Add a dollop of garlic butter on top of the steak and
    spread it out. Serve immediately.

    NOTES: Heat a cast-iron skillet until smoking before
    pan-searing to create the perfect color and seal all the
    flavors in the steak.

    Timing is everything. Cooking Wagyu usually takes less
    time compared to other kinds of steaks. Depending on the
    thickness of the steak, you will need to cook for 2 to 3
    minutes or less on each for medium-rare to have a rich
    and juicy steak.

    By: Bee Yinn Low

    RECIPE FROM: https://rasamalaysia.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Aug 7 13:00:17 2025
    Hi Dave,

    The George doesn't heat the kitchen much. And I've got an indoor
    'lectric grill that gets dragged out once in a while.

    We grill year round. (G)

    Since I cook for just me most of the time firing up and outside grill
    - even a gas grill - is more work than I want. The George and/or the
    plug in grill are much easier.

    Makes a difference; there's 2 of us. (G)


    And "back in the day" beef tended to be leaner and thus chewier than
    is current practice. And nearly all grass-fed.

    German beef (at least in the time we were there, don't know if the EU
    has changed it) is all grass fed. Low and slow is a good way to cook
    it. First few months we were in Frankfurt, there was a kerfuffle about
    the commissary ordering too much beef so they gave it away (had to show ID) over several months. It was a combination of German and American
    beef; that was how I learned to cook German beef. (G)

    And now I'm seeing ads (Humphrey's) for America raised "Wagyu beef"

    Should be "wagyu style beef"; somebody in Japan might see the ad and sue Humphrey's.

    8<----- SHORTEN ----->8

    An interesting twist on the usual bean salad is to use both black and white, then something like soy beans--still 3 bean salad. (G)

    Sometimes we haver to abandon our comfort zones.

    And sometimes we stay in them.

    As long as the A.C. works.

    Working well now, actually backed off over the last few days as temps
    have cooled down. Today has been in the low/mid 70s with occaisional
    rain showers, pure D-lightful!

    We've had a break from the triple digits this week. But my
    prognosticator saays back into the upper 90s by the week-end. Out
    state fair starts today for its 10 day run. I'll not be going within a mile of that mess.

    We're not due to go into the 90s until next Thursday, then it's supposed
    to be 90 that day, then back into the 80s. Don't think it even got out
    of the 60s the last couple of days but today (now) it's 71. We've had
    almost 3" of rain since Tuesday.

    Our state fair is in October so we'll probably be hearing soon what the
    new food items will be. They usually feature some kind of fried
    whatever; some might be worth trying but most aren't worth spending our
    money on. Our fair is held on the west side of Raleigh so we try to
    avoid that paart of town during its run.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Aug 9 06:14:00 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    And now I'm seeing ads (Humphrey's) for America raised "Wagyu beef"

    Should be "wagyu style beef"; somebody in Japan might see the ad and
    sue Humphrey's.

    I refer you to: https://wagyu.org/

    "The American Wagyu Association promotes, fosters, and encourages the development and brand awareness of the Wagyu breed through breed
    integrity, genetic authenticity, outreach, education, research, and
    other programs."

    8<----- SHORTEN ----->8

    We're not due to go into the 90s until next Thursday, then it's
    supposed to be 90 that day, then back into the 80s. Don't think it even got out of the 60s the last couple of days but today (now) it's 71.
    We've had almost 3" of rain since Tuesday.

    We seem to have been getting more than our usual rainfall as well. But,
    as the old sage once said "Climate is what you expect. Weather is
    what you get." As long as my (non-existet) basement doesn't flood ...

    Our state fair is in October so we'll probably be hearing soon what the new food items will be. They usually feature some kind of fried
    whatever; some might be worth trying but most aren't worth spending our money on. Our fair is held on the west side of Raleigh so we try to
    avoid that paart of town during its run.

    Just common sense. I didn't lose anything at our fair(s) and I'd prefer
    to maintain that record. No matter what new and unhelathy deep-fried
    items my be on offer.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Southern Fried Deep-Fat Fried Fat
    Categories: Pork, Breads, Snacks
    Yield: 16 Servings

    1 lb Ham fat; with skin, in 16
    - squares
    1 qt Oil, tallow or lard

    MMMMM---------------------------BATTER--------------------------------
    2 1/2 c Sifted flour
    2 c Cold water
    +=OR=+
    2 c Club soda
    Egg yolks
    pn Salt

    Cut the ham fat into 16 equal, squarish pieces. Set
    aside.

    Put oil/tallow/lard into a deep fryer or a fondue pot
    to heat. While the cooking oil is heating to 360ºF/180ºC
    ......

    Make the batter. I prefer to use club soda as it gives a
    lighter (and I think) crispier batter. You may use plain
    old cold water if you wish. A couple (or three) egg
    yolks help hold things together and blend in.

    When the oil is hot, dip the chunks of fat into the
    batter and fry in the hot oil until golden brown.

    Serve hot.

    If you have batter left over you may want to fry up some
    batter-dipped crudities (cauliflower or broccoli florets,
    onion rings, or bell pepper strips/rings) as an
    accompaniment.

    Serve with your favourite hot-pepper sauce on the side.

    FROM: The fevered brain of Uncle Dirty Dave, in his
    kitchen one dark and stormy night. Inspired by the glut
    of fried "stuff" hawked at fairs and expositions. This
    ain't "healthy" in any key. But it IS tasty.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Aug 9 13:36:47 2025
    Hi Dave,

    And now I'm seeing ads (Humphrey's) for America raised "Wagyu beef"

    Should be "wagyu style beef"; somebody in Japan might see the ad and
    sue Humphrey's.

    I refer you to: https://wagyu.org/

    "The American Wagyu Association promotes, fosters, and encourages the development and brand awareness of the Wagyu breed through breed integrity, genetic authenticity, outreach, education, research, and
    other programs."

    Ok, all's kosher then.

    8<----- SHORTEN ----->8

    got out of the 60s the last couple of days but today (now) it's 71.
    We've had almost 3" of rain since Tuesday.

    We seem to have been getting more than our usual rainfall as well.
    But, as the old sage once said "Climate is what you expect. Weather is what you get." As long as my (non-existet) basement doesn't flood ...

    Our state fair is in October so we'll probably be hearing soon what the new food items will be. They usually feature some kind of fried
    whatever; some might be worth trying but most aren't worth spending our money on. Our fair is held on the west side of Raleigh so we try to
    avoid that paart of town during its run.

    Just common sense. I didn't lose anything at our fair(s) and I'd
    prefer to maintain that record. No matter what new and unhelathy deep-fried items my be on offer.

    We've been on the fair grounds for other events during the year and last
    year Steve worked the RARS (Raleigh Amateur Radio Society) booth a
    couple of days but didn't buy any food, deep fried or otherwise.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Aug 11 07:05:28 2025
    RUTH HAFFLY wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    And now I'm seeing ads (Humphrey's) for America raised "Wagyu beef"

    Should be "wagyu style beef"; somebody in Japan might see the ad and
    sue Humphrey's.

    I refer you to: https://wagyu.org/

    "The American Wagyu Association promotes, fosters, and encourages the development and brand awareness of the Wagyu breed through breed integrity, genetic authenticity, outreach, education, research, and
    other programs."

    Ok, all's kosher then.

    Not unless rabbinically supervised and signed off on. Bv)=

    8<----- SHORTEN ----->8

    got out of the 60s the last couple of days but today (now) it's 71.
    We've had almost 3" of rain since Tuesday.

    We seem to have been getting more than our usual rainfall as well.
    But, as the old sage once said "Climate is what you expect. Weather is what you get." As long as my (non-existet) basement doesn't flood ...

    Our state fair is in October so we'll probably be hearing soon what the new food items will be. They usually feature some kind of fried
    whatever; some might be worth trying but most aren't worth spending our money on. Our fair is held on the west side of Raleigh so we try to
    avoid that paart of town during its run.

    Just common sense. I didn't lose anything at our fair(s) and I'd
    prefer to maintain that record. No matter what new and unhelathy deep-fried items my be on offer.

    We've been on the fair grounds for other events during the year and
    last year Steve worked the RARS (Raleigh Amateur Radio Society) booth a couple of days but didn't buy any food, deep fried or otherwise.

    The fairground is used for many other things beyond the annual wretched
    mess. The Illinois Department of Agriculture is headquartered there. As
    is the State Police radio lab and some Dept. of Conservation functions.
    And the buildings/exhibit halls areused forswap meets, etc. Not to
    mention the mile dirt track - said to be the best in America which is
    used for horse, motorcycle, and car racing.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: State Fair Tenderloins
    Categories: Por, Breads, Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 4 Sandwiches

    Oil: for frying
    4 (8 oz ea) Boneless top loin
    - chops; 1" thick, trimmed
    1/2 c A-P flour
    1 ts Onion powder
    1 ts Garlic salt
    1/2 ts Black pepper
    1 lg Egg; lightly beaten
    3 tb Milk
    10 oz Can plain bread crumbs
    4 Bakery buns

    MMMMM--------------------------ADD ONS-------------------------------
    Bibb lettuce
    Red onion slices
    Ketchup
    Mustard
    Mayonnaise

    Heat oil in a heavy skillet or deep-fryer to
    350ºF/175ºC. Follow instructions for quantity of oil for
    deep fryer. For skillet, allow at least 2" of oil.

    Place pork chops between plastic wrap. Use flat side of
    meat mallet to lightly pound pork to 1/4" thickness.

    Combine flour, onion powder, garlic salt, and pepper in
    a shallow dish. Combine egg and milk in another shallow
    dish. Add bread crumbs to a third shallow dish.

    Coat pork in flour mixture. Dip one at a time, into the
    egg mixture, then coat with the bread crumbs.

    Working in batches, gently add pork to oil and fry for 6
    to 8 minutes or until golden brown and internal
    temperature reaches 145 degrees, turning once. Drain on
    paper towels. Serve in buns with desired condiments.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.hy-vee.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Mon Aug 11 13:39:53 2025
    Hi Dave,

    I refer you to: https://wagyu.org/


    Ok, all's kosher then.

    Not unless rabbinically supervised and signed off on. Bv)=

    And you see his thumbprint. I worked at a Jewish camp one summer; one of
    our running jokes was the U inside the circle was the rabbi's
    thumbprint.

    8<----- SHORTEN ----->8

    Just common sense. I didn't lose anything at our fair(s) and I'd
    prefer to maintain that record. No matter what new and unhelathy deep-fried items my be on offer.

    We've been on the fair grounds for other events during the year and
    last year Steve worked the RARS (Raleigh Amateur Radio Society) booth a couple of days but didn't buy any food, deep fried or otherwise.

    The fairground is used for many other things beyond the annual
    wretched mess. The Illinois Department of Agriculture is headquartered there. As is the State Police radio lab and some Dept. of Conservation functions. And the buildings/exhibit halls areused forswap meets,
    etc. Not to
    mention the mile dirt track - said to be the best in America which is
    used for horse, motorcycle, and car racing.

    We've gone for RV shows, Raleigh Hamvention (Steve, not me) and a home improvement show but not the fair. A couple of years ago they flooded
    the nearby football stadium and had a hockey game on the ice but we
    didn't go to that.


    Title: State Fair Tenderloins
    Categories: Por, Breads, Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 4 Sandwiches

    Looks good to me. Just did some shopping, picked up a pack of pork chops
    (will freeze some, probably grill others).

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Aug 13 06:02:54 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Hi Dave,

    I refer you to: https://wagyu.org/

    Ok, all's kosher then.

    Not unless rabbinically supervised and signed off on. Bv)=

    And you see his thumbprint. I worked at a Jewish camp one summer; one
    of our running jokes was the U inside the circle was the rabbi's thumbprint.

    Unless the Koaher symbol is a "K" inthe circle. Or a Star of David Bv)=
    There are more than 100 Kosher markings used https://sl.bing.net/flYA8Yz08n6

    8<----- SHORTEN ----->8

    Just common sense. I didn't lose anything at our fair(s) and I'd
    prefer to maintain that record. No matter what new and unhelathy deep-fried items my be on offer.

    We've been on the fair grounds for other events during the year and
    last year Steve worked the RARS (Raleigh Amateur Radio Society) booth a couple of days but didn't buy any food, deep fried or otherwise.

    The last time I actually attended a fair was in the 90s when out local
    county fair (which offers free grandstand shows in the evening) had Three
    Dog Night on the bill. It was worth the hassle and I enjoyed myself very
    much. Unlike my boss who attended with me and kept complaining that the
    live performance sounded different from the records they had made.

    The fairground is used for many other things beyond the annual
    wretched mess. The Illinois Department of Agriculture is headquartered there. As is the State Police radio lab and some Dept. of Conservation functions. And the buildings/exhibit halls areused forswap meets,
    etc. Not to
    mention the mile dirt track - said to be the best in America which is
    used for horse, motorcycle, and car racing.

    We've gone for RV shows, Raleigh Hamvention (Steve, not me) and a home improvement show but not the fair. A couple of years ago they flooded
    the nearby football stadium and had a hockey game on the ice but we
    didn't go to that.

    A lot of the county fairs around here use chilli cookoffs and demolition derbies as their extra-curricular activities.

    Title: State Fair Tenderloins
    Categories: Por, Breads, Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 4 Sandwiches

    Looks good to me. Just did some shopping, picked up a pack of pork
    chops (will freeze some, probably grill others).

    I buy extra thick pork chops from Humphrey's or Hy-Vee to make stuffies

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Apple-Raisin Stuffed Pork Chops
    Categories: Pork, Breads, Fruits, Herbs
    Yield: 2 Servings

    2 (1") thick pork chops; bone
    - in or boneless
    1 sl Bread; made into crumbs
    1/8 ts Salt
    1/8 ts Sage
    1/2 Tart apple; fine chopped
    1/4 c Raisins or Craisins; or more
    1/2 tb Butter; melted
    1/8 c Milk
    Salt & pepper

    Make a pocket in each chop.

    Pour milk over bread crumbs. Stir in salt, sage, apple,
    raisins, and melted butter. Stuff each chop with the
    mixture.

    Sear chops on both sides. Season with salt and pepper
    and place in crockpot for 4 to 5 hours or until done.

    About and hour before feeding time thaw a bag of veggies
    in the microwave and put around the chops in the crock.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Aug 14 13:42:31 2025
    Hi Dave,


    Ok, all's kosher then.

    Not unless rabbinically supervised and signed off on. Bv)=

    And you see his thumbprint. I worked at a Jewish camp one summer; one
    of our running jokes was the U inside the circle was the rabbi's thumbprint.

    Unless the Koaher symbol is a "K" inthe circle. Or a Star of David
    Bv)= There are more than 100 Kosher markings used https://sl.bing.net/flYA8Yz08n6

    At the camp, it was always the U in the circle. This was decades ago so
    more symbols may have been added. And, it was the Jewish kids that came
    up with the designation/description.

    8<----- SHORTEN ----->8

    We've been on the fair grounds for other events during the year and
    last year Steve worked the RARS (Raleigh Amateur Radio Society) booth a couple of days but didn't buy any food, deep fried or otherwise.

    The last time I actually attended a fair was in the 90s when out local county fair (which offers free grandstand shows in the evening) had
    Three Dog Night on the bill. It was worth the hassle and I enjoyed
    myself very much. Unlike my boss who attended with me and kept
    complaining that the live performance sounded different from the
    records they had made.

    I know, we went to a Mannheim Steamroller concert in Savannah. Different
    but close enough. This one was some of their other than Christmas music;
    the encore was all Christmas music. Picked up a CD of them playing
    Disney tunes. (G)


    Title: State Fair Tenderloins
    Categories: Por, Breads, Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 4 Sandwiches

    Looks good to me. Just did some shopping, picked up a pack of pork
    chops (will freeze some, probably grill others).

    I buy extra thick pork chops from Humphrey's or Hy-Vee to make
    stuffies

    I learned the easy way to do it when Steve and I first got married. I
    make the dressing, put it in a pan and put the pork chops over it, then
    bake. Saves a lot of frustration trying to get the chops cut and
    stuffed. (G) BTW, grilled a couple of the chops last night, seasoned
    with a bit of poultry seasoning. They were good!


    Title: Apple-Raisin Stuffed Pork Chops
    Categories: Pork, Breads, Fruits, Herbs
    Yield: 2 Servings

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, might try a varient of this in my kitchen.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Dave Drum@1:396/45 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Aug 16 06:13:34 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Ok, all's kosher then.

    Not unless rabbinically supervised and signed off on. Bv)=

    And you see his thumbprint. I worked at a Jewish camp one summer; one
    of our running jokes was the U inside the circle was the rabbi's thumbprint.

    Unless the Koaher symbol is a "K" inthe circle. Or a Star of David
    Bv)= There are more than 100 Kosher markings used https://sl.bing.net/flYA8Yz08n6

    At the camp, it was always the U in the circle. This was decades ago so more symbols may have been added. And, it was the Jewish kids that came
    up with the designation/description.

    The "thumbprint" is the most common. And the most noticable. But some
    of the symbols on thechart I linked are older. And Judiasm is as mixed, splintered and sectarian as Christianity.

    8<----- SHORTEN ----->8

    We've been on the fair grounds for other events during the year and
    last year Steve worked the RARS (Raleigh Amateur Radio Society) booth a couple of days but didn't buy any food, deep fried or otherwise.

    The last time I actually attended a fair was in the 90s when out local county fair (which offers free grandstand shows in the evening) had
    Three Dog Night on the bill. It was worth the hassle and I enjoyed
    myself very much. Unlike my boss who attended with me and kept
    complaining that the live performance sounded different from the
    records they had made.

    I know, we went to a Mannheim Steamroller concert in Savannah.
    Different but close enough. This one was some of their other than Christmas music; the encore was all Christmas music. Picked up a CD of them playing Disney tunes. (G)

    M I C K E Y Mouse .... the mind boggles.

    Title: State Fair Tenderloins
    Categories: Por, Breads, Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 4 Sandwiches

    Looks good to me. Just did some shopping, picked up a pack of pork
    chops (will freeze some, probably grill others).

    I buy extra thick pork chops from Humphrey's or Hy-Vee to make
    stuffies

    I learned the easy way to do it when Steve and I first got married. I
    make the dressing, put it in a pan and put the pork chops over it, then bake. Saves a lot of frustration trying to get the chops cut and
    stuffed. (G) BTW, grilled a couple of the chops last night, seasoned
    with a bit of poultry seasoning. They were good!

    Actually I've never had a problem making the pocket for the stuffing.
    And limiting the stuffing to what fits "in the pocket" cuts down on the
    carb loading and need for a nap. Bv)=

    Title: Apple-Raisin Stuffed Pork Chops
    Categories: Pork, Breads, Fruits, Herbs
    Yield: 2 Servings

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, might try a varient of this in my kitchen.

    I'll bet you'll like it. Here's another to consider - it can go
    either as in-a-pan w/chops on top or stuffed into individual
    chops:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Bacon-Cheddar Stuffing
    Categories: Breads, Pork, Vegetables, Herbs, Cheese
    Yield: 8 Servings

    16 oz Stale bagels; in 1" cubes
    2 Ribs celery; chopped
    1 lg Onion; chopped
    6 tb Butter; diced
    1 c Stale beer
    +=OR=+
    1 c Unfiltered cider
    1 lb Bacon; cooked, crumbled
    1 tb + 1 1/2 ts minced fresh
    - thyme
    +=OR=+
    1 1/2 ts Dried thyme
    Salt & pepper
    1 c Chicken or pork stock
    1 lg Egg
    12 oz Cheddar cheese; shredded

    Set oven @ 350ºF/175ºC.

    Place bread in a single layer on two rimmed baking
    sheets. Bake for 15-20 minutes or until toasted, turning
    once. Cool completely on a wire rack.

    Saute celery and onion in butter in a large skillet over
    medium-high heat for 6-8 minutes or until tender. Reduce
    heat to medium; pour in beer. Bring to a boil; cook and
    stir for 2-4 minutes or until liquid is reduced to 1/2
    cup. Remove from the heat. Stir in bacon and thyme.
    Season with salt and pepper to taste.

    Whisk stock and egg in a large bowl. Add bread cubes and
    bacon mixture; toss until well coated. Fold in shredded
    cheddar.

    Spoon into a greased 2 quart baking dish. Bake, covered,
    for 30 minutes. Uncover; bake for 15-20 minutes longer
    or until top is golden brown.

    Or use to stuff butterfly pork chops.

    Stuffs 8 chops nicely. Leftover stuffing may be baked
    and served with a nice gravy as a side dish at another
    meal.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Aug 16 16:48:52 2025
    Hi Dave,

    Not unless rabbinically supervised and signed off on. Bv)=

    And you see his thumbprint. I worked at a Jewish camp one summer; one
    of our running jokes was the U inside the circle was the rabbi's thumbprint.

    Unless the Koaher symbol is a "K" inthe circle. Or a Star of David
    Bv)= There are more than 100 Kosher markings used https://sl.bing.net/flYA8Yz08n6

    At the camp, it was always the U in the circle. This was decades ago so more symbols may have been added. And, it was the Jewish kids that came
    up with the designation/description.

    The "thumbprint" is the most common. And the most noticable. But some
    of the symbols on thechart I linked are older. And Judiasm is as
    mixed, splintered and sectarian as Christianity.

    Guess it probably is partly where you (and the rabbi) live as to what
    symbol is used.

    8<----- SHORTEN ----->8

    We've been on the fair grounds for other events during the year and

    The last time I actually attended a fair was in the 90s when out local county fair (which offers free grandstand shows in the evening) had
    Three Dog Night on the bill. It was worth the hassle and I enjoyed
    myself very much. Unlike my boss who attended with me and kept

    I know, we went to a Mannheim Steamroller concert in Savannah.
    Different but close enough. This one was some of their other than Christmas music; the encore was all Christmas music. Picked up a CD of them playing Disney tunes. (G)

    M I C K E Y Mouse .... the mind boggles.

    Heigh Ho, It's Off To Work We Go is the one tat comes to mind right
    away.


    Title: State Fair Tenderloins
    Categories: Por, Breads, Vegetables, Sauces
    Yield: 4 Sandwiches

    Looks good to me. Just did some shopping, picked up a pack of pork
    chops (will freeze some, probably grill others).

    I buy extra thick pork chops from Humphrey's or Hy-Vee to make
    stuffies

    I learned the easy way to do it when Steve and I first got married. I
    make the dressing, put it in a pan and put the pork chops over it, then bake. Saves a lot of frustration trying to get the chops cut and
    stuffed. (G) BTW, grilled a couple of the chops last night, seasoned
    with a bit of poultry seasoning. They were good!

    Actually I've never had a problem making the pocket for the stuffing.
    And limiting the stuffing to what fits "in the pocket" cuts down on
    the carb loading and need for a nap. Bv)=

    I could probably do a better job of making the pocket now than as a
    newly wed. By the same token, my hands/wrists aren't in too great a
    shape so I'd probably keep doing it the way I've always done it. (G)

    Title: Apple-Raisin Stuffed Pork Chops
    Categories: Pork, Breads, Fruits, Herbs
    Yield: 2 Servings

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, might try a varient of this in my kitchen.

    I'll bet you'll like it. Here's another to consider - it can go
    either as in-a-pan w/chops on top or stuffed into individual
    chops:


    Title: Bacon-Cheddar Stuffing
    Categories: Breads, Pork, Vegetables, Herbs, Cheese
    Yield: 8 Servings

    16 oz Stale bagels; in 1" cubes

    Looks good but I'd probably use a rustic bread like the sourdough
    mischebrot we get at Wegman's instead of bagels. Personal taste.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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