Hi Dave,

Stephen has looked at riding mowers but by using the lawn care service, hasn't had the need to buy one.

If I hired a lawn service my Scottish forebears would be "spinning in their crypts".

Your choice. When they got old enough, my brothers did the lawn care for
my parents and I know Steve has mowed quite a few yards. It's not a
favorite chore so I don't mind him spending the money to have someone
else do it. He, along with several other men, mow the church house
yards, mostly with a riding mower but a hand one where needed and a
string trimmer.

It lived in a back corner of the garage until one fine afternoon
when a friend called and asked if I knew where he could find a DD>

reasonably priced mower for his son who had bought a house with a DD>

Good deal. My parents owned about a quarter acre but kept a small strip
of the one neighbor's pace mowed to extend our back yard slightly. Neighbors owned several acres surrounding ours but let us have free run
of most of it, including a good sledding hill. Only part of their
acreage was kept mowed, the rest was left wild.

Like the farm house my Granddad and I stayedin during the week while
my Grandmother was working out of town. There was a front and side
yard.
The other "side yard"was taken up with a kitchen garden having green beans, carrots, radishes, sweet crn, popcorn, and asparagus patch,
etc.

Dad's vegetable gardens were in the back of the house, one near an old
barn foundation (barn had burned some years before my folks bought the
lot but the foundation was never cleared away). The other was in what we
called the "lower lawn", down a small hill in the back yard. He grew
lettuce, tomatoes, carrots, wax beans, beets, sweet corn, rhubarb, don't remember anything else when I was growing up. After I left home he added brussels sprouts and IIRC something else. Most of it was either eaten
fresh or canned, later frozen.

The backyard contained the well and pump (no runnin water), DD>

smokehouse, tool shed and outhouse. And the other side of the fence DD>
was pasture.

Lots of room for a kid to run wild in.

she called back saying it was soupy; in trouble shooting, she thought
I'd said 3-4 cups (instead of 3/4 cup) of water. I was able to tell her the extra amounts of flour, yeast, oil and sugar (or honey) to add to
the bowl to make several crusts (the dough freezes well) so she'd have them on hand for a quick meal.

I'll bet you told her three-fourths of a cup where I would have said
three quarters of a cup. My grandpa taught me that when we were making
a sewing table for my grandmother. He had asked me for a measurement
and his ears elided the three fourths inch in the same way your lady mis-heard your
water measure. Sso he instructed me to use quarter instead of fourth.
Bv)=

Probably so, been so long I don't remember. Do you say "oh" or "zero"?
I grew up using the former more but some time ago switched to using the latter.

In casual conversation I use "oh" If giving a number ... phone,
address, etc. I use "zero" and may do phonetic letters like "apple", "hairy", etc. Not the same as the military but the same principle.

We hear all kinds of substitutions on the radio, generally from folks
who've not had any exposure to the NATO phonetic alphabet (usually in
the military. The NATO alphabet is supposed to be used but some of the
older hams will come up with all sorts of variations.

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Ruth
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Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

Like the farm house my Granddad and I stayedin during the week while
my Grandmother was working out of town. There was a front and side
yard.

The other "side yard"was taken up with a kitchen garden having green beans, carrots, radishes, sweet crn, popcorn, and asparagus patch,
etc.

Dad's vegetable gardens were in the back of the house, one near an old barn foundation (barn had burned some years before my folks bought the
lot but the foundation was never cleared away). The other was in what
we called the "lower lawn", down a small hill in the back yard. He grew lettuce, tomatoes, carrots, wax beans, beets, sweet corn, rhubarb,
don't remember anything else when I was growing up. After I left home
he added brussels sprouts and IIRC something else. Most of it was
either eaten fresh or canned, later frozen.

When I did the "truck" garden and had the pushcart I did beets a couple
times. Oddly, the greens sold better than the roots. never did Brussels
sprouts or red cabbage. Just leaf lettuce and regular cabbage. Also had muskmelons, cucumbers, various squash and a strawberry patch.

The backyard contained the well and pump (no runnin water), DD>

smokehouse, tool shed and outhouse. And the other side of the fence

was pasture.

Lots of room for a kid to run wild in.

When I had time to "run wild". Between feeding the cows, slopping chickens
and gathering their eggs, hoeing the weeds in the garden .........

she called back saying it was soupy; in trouble shooting, she thought
I'd said 3-4 cups (instead of 3/4 cup) of water. I was able to tell her the extra amounts of flour, yeast, oil and sugar (or honey) to add to
the bowl to make several crusts (the dough freezes well) so she'd have them on hand for a quick meal.

I'll bet you told her three-fourths of a cup where I would have said
three quarters of a cup. My grandpa taught me that when we were making
a sewing table for my grandmother. He had asked me for a measurement
and his ears elided the three fourths inch in the same way your lady mis-heard your
water measure. Sso he instructed me to use quarter instead of fourth.
Bv)=

Probably so, been so long I don't remember. Do you say "oh" or "zero"?
I grew up using the former more but some time ago switched to using the latter.

In casual conversation I use "oh" If giving a number ... phone,
address, etc. I use "zero" and may do phonetic letters like "apple", "hairy", etc. Not the same as the military but the same principle.

We hear all kinds of substitutions on the radio, generally from folks who've not had any exposure to the NATO phonetic alphabet (usually in
the military. The NATO alphabet is supposed to be used but some of the older hams will come up with all sorts of variations.

So long as the meaning is clear. When people ask my sur-name I tell them
"Drum. Like the musical instrument." Bv)= And I'm hard to beat.

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

Title: Crispy Pan-Seared Freshwater Drum
Categories: Seafood, Vegetables, Citrus, Herbs
Yield: 4 servings

2 tb Unsalted butter
2 tb Olive oil
4 cl Garlic; minced
Fresh parsley; chopped
- garnish
Juice of 1 lemon
Salt & pepper
1/4 c Chicken broth
2 tb Capers; drained
Lemon wedges; serve
2 lb Freshwater Drum fillets

Rinse the Freshwater Drum fillets under cold water and
pat them dry with paper towels. Season both sides with
salt and pepper.

Heat olive oil in a large skillet over medium-high heat.
Once the oil is hot, carefully place the drum fillets in
the skillet, skin side down. Cook for about 4-5 minutes
until the skin is crispy and golden brown. Flip the
fillets and cook for another 3-4 minutes until the flesh
is cooked through but still moist. Transfer the cooked
fillets to a plate and cover loosely with foil to keep
warm.

In the same skillet, melt the butter over medium heat.
Add the minced garlic and cook for about 1 minute until
fragrant, but not browned.

Stir in the capers and lemon juice, scraping any browned
bits from the bottom of the skillet. Cook for another
minute to combine the flavors.

Pour in the chicken or vegetable broth and bring the
mixture to a simmer. Cook for 2-3 minutes until the
sauce has slightly thickened. Taste and adjust the
seasoning with salt and pepper if needed.

Return the cooked Freshwater Drum fillets to the
skillet, spooning the lemon-caper sauce over them.
Gently swirl the skillet to coat the fillets evenly with
the sauce. Cook for an additional minute to reheat the
fish.

Transfer the fish and sauce to a serving platter.
Sprinkle with fresh chopped parsley for garnish.

Serve the pan-seared Freshwater Drum fillets with
lemon-caper sauce immediately, accompanied by lemon
wedges on the side. This dish pairs well with steamed
vegetables, roasted potatoes, or a fresh green salad.

DISCLAIMER: This recipe was generated with the
assistance of AI language technology. We cannot
guarantee its accuracy or success.

Please use your best judgment and follow food safety
guidelines when preparing this recipe.

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Hi Dave,

The other "side yard"was taken up with a kitchen garden having green beans, carrots, radishes, sweet crn, popcorn, and asparagus patch,

Dad's vegetable gardens were in the back of the house, one near an old barn foundation (barn had burned some years before my folks bought the
lot but the foundation was never cleared away). The other was in what
we called the "lower lawn", down a small hill in the back yard. He grew lettuce, tomatoes, carrots, wax beans, beets, sweet corn, rhubarb,
don't remember anything else when I was growing up. After I left home
he added brussels sprouts and IIRC something else. Most of it was
either eaten fresh or canned, later frozen.

When I did the "truck" garden and had the pushcart I did beets a
couple times. Oddly, the greens sold better than the roots. never did Brussels sprouts or red cabbage. Just leaf lettuce and regular
cabbage. Also had muskmelons, cucumbers, various squash and a
strawberry patch.

A good basic assortment for people. Probably most 50's era Mid-West
housewives wouldn't know how to prepare some of the "fancy" vegetables.
(G)

smokehouse, tool shed and outhouse. And the other side of the fence

was pasture.

Lots of room for a kid to run wild in.

When I had time to "run wild". Between feeding the cows, slopping
chickens and gathering their eggs, hoeing the weeds in the garden .........

Since ours was just a couple of garden patches, we didn't have all the associated farm chores. No cows or chickens so pulling weeds (by hand)
was the closest we got to farm type work. Also, helping mom prep beans
and such like for canning but she never let us go beyond basic prep work
there. Still, by watching her, then doing some reading, I've been a very successful canner. My failure to seal rate is probably around .0001%
overall.

address, etc. I use "zero" and may do phonetic letters like "apple", "hairy", etc. Not the same as the military but the same principle.

We hear all kinds of substitutions on the radio, generally from folks who've not had any exposure to the NATO phonetic alphabet (usually in
the military. The NATO alphabet is supposed to be used but some of the older hams will come up with all sorts of variations.

So long as the meaning is clear. When people ask my sur-name I tell
them "Drum. Like the musical instrument." Bv)= And I'm hard to beat.

Groan. I usually ask (if not in a military context) if the person is
familiar with the NATO alphabet. If they respond positively, I'll then
say "Hotel/Alpha/Foxtrot/Foxtrot/Lima/Yankee, first name Romeo/Uniform/Tango/Hotel. Gets their attention. (G) On the phone a lot
of people hear "s" instead of "f" so by using the NATO alphabet, it's
clear.

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

Title: Crispy Pan-Seared Freshwater Drum
Categories: Seafood, Vegetables, Citrus, Herbs
Yield: 4 servings

2 tb Unsalted butter
2 tb Olive oil
4 cl Garlic; minced
Fresh parsley; chopped
- garnish
Juice of 1 lemon
Salt & pepper
1/4 c Chicken broth
2 tb Capers; drained
Lemon wedges; serve
2 lb Freshwater Drum fillets

Looks similar to chicken picotta, which I'm doing for supper tonight.


---
Catch you later,
Ruth
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Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

When I did the "truck" garden and had the pushcart I did beets a
couple times. Oddly, the greens sold better than the roots. never did Brussels sprouts or red cabbage. Just leaf lettuce and regular
cabbage. Also had muskmelons, cucumbers, various squash and a
strawberry patch.

A good basic assortment for people. Probably most 50's era Mid-West housewives wouldn't know how to prepare some of the "fancy" vegetables. (G)

You might be surprised. Carlinville (population under 4,000) had an
amazing mix of people with European ancestry. While the bulk of the
population was of UK, German or Italian descent there were enough of
French, Czech, Polish, Greek, etc. ethnicity to give an eclectic mix.

smokehouse, tool shed and outhouse. And the other side of the fence

was pasture.

Lots of room for a kid to run wild in.

When I had time to "run wild". Between feeding the cows, slopping
chickens and gathering their eggs, hoeing the weeds in the garden .........

Since ours was just a couple of garden patches, we didn't have all the associated farm chores. No cows or chickens so pulling weeds (by hand)
was the closest we got to farm type work. Also, helping mom prep beans
and such like for canning but she never let us go beyond basic prep
work there. Still, by watching her, then doing some reading, I've been
a very successful canner. My failure to seal rate is probably around .0001% overall.

I helped withb the "putting up". But other than jams and jellies or the occasional batch of fruit preserves - moslty "sealed" with paraffin - I've
not done any "canning" on my own. The freezer is so much more handy.

address, etc. I use "zero" and may do phonetic letters like "apple", "hairy", etc. Not the same as the military but the same principle.

We hear all kinds of substitutions on the radio, generally from folks who've not had any exposure to the NATO phonetic alphabet (usually in
the military. The NATO alphabet is supposed to be used but some of the older hams will come up with all sorts of variations.

I grew up in the Able Bake Charlie era. Not the Alpha Bravo Charlie that
came later.

So long as the meaning is clear. When people ask my sur-name I tell
them "Drum. Like the musical instrument." Bv)= And I'm hard to beat.

Groan. I usually ask (if not in a military context) if the person is familiar with the NATO alphabet. If they respond positively, I'll then
say "Hotel/Alpha/Foxtrot/Foxtrot/Lima/Yankee, first name Romeo/Uniform/Tango/Hotel. Gets their attention. (G) On the phone a lot
of people hear "s" instead of "f" so by using the NATO alphabet, it's clear.

Especially when dealing with a telemarketer or customer "service" rep
for whom English is *not* a firdt languager.

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

Title: Crispy Pan-Seared Freshwater Drum
Categories: Seafood, Vegetables, Citrus, Herbs
Yield: 4 servings

2 tb Unsalted butter
2 tb Olive oil
4 cl Garlic; minced
Fresh parsley; chopped
- garnish
Juice of 1 lemon
Salt & pepper
1/4 c Chicken broth
2 tb Capers; drained
Lemon wedges; serve
2 lb Freshwater Drum fillets

Looks similar to chicken picotta, which I'm doing for supper tonight.

Michael and I had an on-going battle about the use of capers (which I can
live a long and happpy life without) being a requirement for piccta. Even
after I posted him a recipe from Larousse Gastronomique (a source he loved
to cite/quote) he never gave up. Bv)=

This is recipe #11 in my Meal Muncher database:

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Title: Chicken Piccata
Categories: Poultry, Citrus, Wine
Yield: 2 Servings

2 Chicken breast halves or
- thighs; 4 to 6 oz each
- boned, skinned
1/3 c Flour
2 tb Grated Parmesan cheese
Salt & pepper
4 tb Butter
4 tb Olive oil

MMMMM---------------------------SAUCE--------------------------------
3 tb Lemon juice
1 Lemon; sliced 1/4" thick
1/2 c Chicken stock
+=OR=+
1/2 c Dry white wine
1/4 c Scallions; stems & bulbs *
- chopped
Light cream (opt)

MMMMM--------------------------GARNISH-------------------------------
1/4 c Chopped parsley
Chopped Scallion tops (opt)

* You can sub bottled capers for the scallions if you must
have capers in your piccata. But they are not necessary.

Skin and bone the breast halves. Butterfly them if extra
thick. Pound to 1/4" - 1/3" thick (I use a heavy rolling
pin and really lean into it).

Mix the flour, S&P, and Parmesan well. Rinse the chicken
breast halves under cold, running water. Dredge each half
through the mixture until well coated.

COOK THE CHOOK:

Heat the olive oil and 2 TB butter in a large skillet on
med-high heat. Add the floured chicken pieces. Brown well
on each side, about 3 - 3 1/2 minutes per side. Remove
from skillet and cover with aluminum foil. Keep warm in
the oven while preparing the sauce.

MAKE THE SAUCE:

Deglaze the pan using white wine (or chicken stock) and
lemon juice, add scallions and sliced lemon to the pan.
Use a spatula to scrape up the browned bits. Reduce the
sauce by half. w/hisk in the remaining 2 Tbsp of butter.

Plate the chicken and serve with the sauce poured over
the chicken. Sprinkle with parsley. Accompany with a
side serve of pasta (dressed w/basil aioli?) or (real)
rice.

Serves 2

MM Format by Dave Drum; 15 February 2008

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Hi Dave,

When I did the "truck" garden and had the pushcart I did beets a
couple times. Oddly, the greens sold better than the roots. never did Brussels sprouts or red cabbage. Just leaf lettuce and regular
cabbage. Also had muskmelons, cucumbers, various squash and a
strawberry patch.

A good basic assortment for people. Probably most 50's era Mid-West housewives wouldn't know how to prepare some of the "fancy" vegetables. (G)

You might be surprised. Carlinville (population under 4,000) had an amazing mix of people with European ancestry. While the bulk of the population was of UK, German or Italian descent there were enough of French, Czech, Polish, Greek, etc. ethnicity to give an eclectic mix.

Did they all keep to their own ethnic cooking or did it (d)evolve into
the average American cooking eventually?

smokehouse, tool shed and outhouse. And the other side of the fence

was pasture.

Lots of room for a kid to run wild in.

When I had time to "run wild". Between feeding the cows, slopping
chickens and gathering their eggs, hoeing the weeds in the garden .........

Since ours was just a couple of garden patches, we didn't have all the associated farm chores. No cows or chickens so pulling weeds (by hand)
was the closest we got to farm type work. Also, helping mom prep beans
and such like for canning but she never let us go beyond basic prep
work there. Still, by watching her, then doing some reading, I've been
a very successful canner. My failure to seal rate is probably around .0001% overall.

I helped withb the "putting up". But other than jams and jellies or
the occasional batch of fruit preserves - moslty "sealed" with
paraffin - I've not done any "canning" on my own. The freezer is so
much more handy.

Big advantage of canning is that you're not spending energy to keep it
"put up" Jars can be stowed anywhere and don't need power. Also frees up
the freezer for stocking perishables like meats, breadstuffs and such
like.

address, etc. I use "zero" and may do phonetic letters like "apple", "hairy", etc. Not the same as the military but the same principle.

We hear all kinds of substitutions on the radio, generally from folks who've not had any exposure to the NATO phonetic alphabet (usually in
the military. The NATO alphabet is supposed to be used but some of the older hams will come up with all sorts of variations.

I grew up in the Able Bake Charlie era. Not the Alpha Bravo Charlie
that came later.

My dad was in the former era also so when one of our cats had kittens,
he designated them Able, Baker, Charlie and Dog, figuring they'd all
find homes and new names. First 3 did find home, took mama over for
spaying and she died on the operating table (genetic heart defect, we
found out others in the same line had died young). We needed a cat for
the mousekeeping chores so kept Dog and kept her name.

So long as the meaning is clear. When people ask my sur-name I tell
them "Drum. Like the musical instrument." Bv)= And I'm hard to beat.

Groan. I usually ask (if not in a military context) if the person is familiar with the NATO alphabet. If they respond positively, I'll then
say "Hotel/Alpha/Foxtrot/Foxtrot/Lima/Yankee, first name Romeo/Uniform/Tango/Hotel. Gets their attention. (G) On the phone a lot
of people hear "s" instead of "f" so by using the NATO alphabet, it's clear.

Especially when dealing with a telemarketer or customer "service" rep
for whom English is *not* a firdt languager.

Most of the former don't make it past the call screening program.

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

Title: Crispy Pan-Seared Freshwater Drum
Categories: Seafood, Vegetables, Citrus, Herbs
Yield: 4 servings

Looks similar to chicken picotta, which I'm doing for supper tonight.

Michael and I had an on-going battle about the use of capers (which I
can live a long and happpy life without) being a requirement for
piccta. Even after I posted him a recipe from Larousse Gastronomique
(a source he loved to cite/quote) he never gave up. Bv)=

I use them; we both like them in the picotta. The first time (of
several, made by the same cook) we had this, it had capers in it so I
found a close enough to his recipe that had the capers & use that. The
cook that made it the first time(s) we had it is retired from the FDNY.

Title: Chicken Piccata
Categories: Poultry, Citrus, Wine
Yield: 2 Servings

* You can sub bottled capers for the scallions if you must
have capers in your piccata. But they are not necessary.

Skin and bone the breast halves. Butterfly them if extra
thick. Pound to 1/4" - 1/3" thick (I use a heavy rolling
pin and really lean into it).

We mince a good sized clove of garlic and brown it slightly in oilve oil
as the first step in making the sauce.

---
Catch you later,
Ruth
rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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