Hi Shawn,

True, but I just don't want to get sucked into another time waster.
Maybe if I were younger but.............

We got my mother using it now and she's 78.

My cousins tried to get my dad to use it when he was in his 90s to
communicate with them but I don't think it ever worked as well as they
wanted it to.

If the new unit doesn't have an oven, get a combination microwave/convection oven. Better than not having any oven. We had
that in the R-Pod, have a small oven (and 3 burner stove) in the
Grey Wolf.

We have an electric table top one in the current trailer that I would
be moving. It works great and it's handy as I can plug it in outside
or in the shed when I don't want to heat up the entire place.

OK, you're covered. We bought one that sits on top of a propane stove
burner, used it a few times. Tricky part with that is getting it
regulated to just the right temperature.

Yeah, right. Stopped at Costco today after voting to get propane and regular gas, a few grocery items fell into the buggy as well. Picked
up a box of small packs of gummi bears for trick or treaters so
that'll clear out of the house fast.

Nice. Our building doesn't allow the little beggers to knock so other then our grandson and his friend we don't get any kids. (They get
pretty much enough candy from us they don't need to go elsewhere. LOL)

We live in a neighborhood of single houses, a few of them have young
kids who come over. Often times we'll get kids from up or down the
street also; I think we had about 30 trick or treaters last year after
having none the year before. We are always prepared; one year in our
rental house we had about 60 (some older kids (teens) as well as a lot
of little ones. Had just enough candy that year.

---
Catch you later,
Ruth
rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


... The first rule of intelligent tinkering: Save all the parts!

--- PPoint 3.01
* Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)

Hi Ruth,
On <Fri, 24 Oct 24>, you wrote me:

My cousins tried to get my dad to use it when he was in his 90s to communicate with them but I don't think it ever worked as well as
they wanted it to.

Mom can use it, but Dad won't. The funny thing is Dad uses a computer
and my mother won't even consider using anything other then her phone
and tablet.

Growing up it was the opposite. Mom would use the computer and Dad
would not.

OK, you're covered. We bought one that sits on top of a propane stove burner, used it a few times. Tricky part with that is getting it
regulated to just the right temperature.

I can see that would be difficult. I got this electric one around 7 years ago when I was staying with a friend who's landlord wouldn't replace the gas
oven in the house because he knew Tom didn't cook. It's been at the
trailer since then and I've some years brought it home if I knew I was doing
a big meal. I don't need to now as my daughter lives in the same building
so I just go up and down using her oven and mine.

street also; I think we had about 30 trick or treaters last year
after having none the year before. We are always prepared; one year
in our rental house we had about 60 (some older kids (teens) as well
of little ones. Had just enough candy that year.

Very cool, I do miss it, but at least we got trick or treaters this year for the
one they do at the trailer park in August. ;)

Shawn

--- Grumble
* Origin: Free are those who dream dreams. (1:229/452)

Hi Shawn,

My cousins tried to get my dad to use it when he was in his 90s to communicate with them but I don't think it ever worked as well as
they wanted it to.

Mom can use it, but Dad won't. The funny thing is Dad uses a computer
and my mother won't even consider using anything other then her phone
and tablet.

My dad got his first one in, IIRC, around 1979 or 1980, a TS-80. Mom
always wrote a weekly letter, making multiple copies (for 5 kids and her
mom) so Dad had her switch from a typewriter to the computer. In all the
years he had (various ones) it, he had to show her every week how to
turn it on and delete the previous one. Looking back, that may have been
one of the earliest signs of the dementia that eventually took her in
2014. The weekly letters had stopped some years before she passed away.

Growing up it was the opposite. Mom would use the computer and Dad
would not.

We got our first one in 1984, a Commodore 64. Our younger daughter
wasn't quite 4; she and her older sister took to it (for games) quite
readily, before they were old enough to use it for school work. Kept the
C=64 for 10 years, before finally upgrading to a PC thru military
surplus sales. I still don't use it a lot, but more than I used the
C=64.

OK, you're covered. We bought one that sits on top of a propane stove burner, used it a few times. Tricky part with that is getting it
regulated to just the right temperature.

I can see that would be difficult. I got this electric one around 7
years ago when I was staying with a friend who's landlord wouldn't
replace the gas oven in the house because he knew Tom didn't cook.
It's been at the
trailer since then and I've some years brought it home if I knew I was doing a big meal. I don't need to now as my daughter lives in the
same building so I just go up and down using her oven and mine.

It helps to have a working oven in the house, even if it's only toaster
oven size. At one point we'd bought a toaster oven that would hold a
13"x9" cake pan, had to pass it on (to a friend) when we upgraded our refridgerator. Just the extra few inches the new fridge was wider filled
the empty space the oven overhung into. Replaced it with one that'll
hold a 9" pan but I have to heat the big oven for anything bigger.

street also; I think we had about 30 trick or treaters last year
after having none the year before. We are always prepared; one year
in our rental house we had about 60 (some older kids (teens) as well
of little ones. Had just enough candy that year.

Very cool, I do miss it, but at least we got trick or treaters this
year for the one they do at the trailer park in August. ;)

By this time next week, all the trick or treaters will be in a sugar
coma. Down at the farmer's market today, all the vendors were passing
out candy to the kids so some have had an early start.


---
Catch you later,
Ruth
rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


... Get shopping while the gettin' is good!!!

--- PPoint 3.01
* Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)

Hi Ruth,
On <Sun, 26 Oct 24>, you wrote me:

years he had (various ones) it, he had to show her every week how to
turn it on and delete the previous one. Looking back, that may have

Laugh, sounds like my mother using my old c64 when I was a kid.
Wrote down instructions on how to play her majong game.

her in 2014. The weekly letters had stopped some years before she
passed away.

Could have been, or she was just running out of things to write about?

the C=64 for 10 years, before finally upgrading to a PC thru
military surplus sales. I still don't use it a lot, but more than I
used the C=64.

I still have a few c64's, they are in storage now but I have an emulator installed on the desktop.

It helps to have a working oven in the house, even if it's only
toaster oven size. At one point we'd bought a toaster oven that would hold a 13"x9" cake pan, had to pass it on (to a friend) when we

I can put two loaf pans in this one. I"m not sure of the size but it will also fit a whole chicken.

By this time next week, all the trick or treaters will be in a sugar
coma. Down at the farmer's market today, all the vendors were passing
out candy to the kids so some have had an early start.

LOL I think our trainer will be dropping off her yearly bucket of candy soon. She likes to keep us hopped up on sugar. hahaha

Shawn

--- Grumble
* Origin: I love the smell of napalm in the morning. (1:229/452)

Hi Shawn,

years he had (various ones) it, he had to show her every week how to
turn it on and delete the previous one. Looking back, that may have

Laugh, sounds like my mother using my old c64 when I was a kid.
Wrote down instructions on how to play her majong game.

Steve wrote out instructions for his mom to use her DVD player but I
think she has stopped watching much tv/many movies. She's getting more
active in her assisted living community now, good for her to get out
with other people.

her in 2014. The weekly letters had stopped some years before she
passed away.

Could have been, or she was just running out of things to write about?

No, she always wrote about the same basics--what was in bloom, rainfall amounts, anything of note in the community. Her mind had gotten so bad
after a broken hip and out of control diabeties before she went into the nursing home that Dad banished her from the kitchen and basically doing
any household work. They'd hired a part time housecleaner a few years
before; just increased her hours. Dad took over some of the work, then
Mom went into the nursing home. For a while Dad did OK on his own, then
broke his 2nd hip so we hired a full time aide for him and the
housekeeper's hours increased again. A few weeks after Mom died, Dad
went into a nursing home for the rest of his life.

the C=64 for 10 years, before finally upgrading to a PC thru
military surplus sales. I still don't use it a lot, but more than I
used the C=64.

I still have a few c64's, they are in storage now but I have an
emulator installed on the desktop.

I think Steve has an emulator on the desktop system but I don't use that
one so don't know for sure.

It helps to have a working oven in the house, even if it's only
toaster oven size. At one point we'd bought a toaster oven that would
hold a 13"x9" cake pan, had to pass it on (to a friend) when we

I can put two loaf pans in this one. I"m not sure of the size but it
will also fit a whole chicken.

Sounds about as big as the one we gave away. I'd rather have the bigger
fridge tho, since I do have a working oven otherwise.

By this time next week, all the trick or treaters will be in a sugar
coma. Down at the farmer's market today, all the vendors were passing
out candy to the kids so some have had an early start.

LOL I think our trainer will be dropping off her yearly bucket of
candy soon. She likes to keep us hopped up on sugar. hahaha

Most often, the major sweet we have on hand is some form of chocolate.
We've still got some that we got out in Ohio in May, plus bars from Aldi
and some bars we got at Ikea last summer. Bit by bit tho, it is
disappearing. (G)

---
Catch you later,
Ruth
rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


... I'm clinging to sanity by a thread. Hand me those scissors.

--- PPoint 3.01
* Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)

Hi Ruth,
On <Tue, 28 Oct 24>, you wrote me:

Steve wrote out instructions for his mom to use her DVD player but I
think she has stopped watching much tv/many movies. She's getting
more active in her assisted living community now, good for her to get
out with other people.

That's much better then sitting home watching movies and TV shows for
sure. Good for her!

No, she always wrote about the same basics--what was in bloom,
rainfall amounts, anything of note in the community. Her mind had

Oh interesting. Nice history lesson there from the eyes of a single person.

Mom went into the nursing home. For a while Dad did OK on his own,
then broke his 2nd hip so we hired a full time aide for him and
the housekeeper's hours increased again. A few weeks after Mom died,
Dad went into a nursing home for the rest of his life.

Wow. Strange how fast people go.

Sounds about as big as the one we gave away. I'd rather have the
bigger fridge tho, since I do have a working oven otherwise.

Yes don't blame you at all.

Most often, the major sweet we have on hand is some form of
chocolate. We've still got some that we got out in Ohio in May, plus
and some bars we got at Ikea last summer. Bit by bit tho, it is disappearing. (G)

Laugh. Andrea goes through stages where she'll buy chocolate, then
it won't be here for months and months. I try to not buy stuff like that as if it's in the apartment I'll eat it.

Shawn

--- Grumble
* Origin: Happiness is: CONNECT 33600/ARQ/V34+/LAPM/V42BIS (1:229/452)

Hi Shawn,

Steve wrote out instructions for his mom to use her DVD player but I
think she has stopped watching much tv/many movies. She's getting
more active in her assisted living community now, good for her to get
out with other people.

That's much better then sitting home watching movies and TV shows for sure. Good for her!

Yes, it took her a while to do so. Her husband was in the hospital most
of the time for the first 9 months after they moved there, then he
passed away. I think it took Mom several months to grieve before she
felt like doing any of the activities the place offered but she is
enjoying them now. Also nice that family is close by and can pop in for
a visit easily.

No, she always wrote about the same basics--what was in bloom,
rainfall amounts, anything of note in the community. Her mind had

Oh interesting. Nice history lesson there from the eyes of a single person.

Actually, 2 people because Dad would close out the letter with usually a
fairly substantual note of his own. Toward the end, he was the only one writing, as Mom's mind was too far gone.

Mom went into the nursing home. For a while Dad did OK on his own,
then broke his 2nd hip so we hired a full time aide for him and
the housekeeper's hours increased again. A few weeks after Mom died,
Dad went into a nursing home for the rest of his life.

Wow. Strange how fast people go.

He lived almost 3 more years after she passed away. We'd always thought
that he would go first; he was 7 years older and had some major health
issues as he aged. But, the broken hip and out of control diabetes
brought on the dementia rather rapidly.....looking back, we saw some
signs of it coming on but didn't recognise them for what they were
until too late.

Sounds about as big as the one we gave away. I'd rather have the
bigger fridge tho, since I do have a working oven otherwise.

Yes don't blame you at all.

And right now it is quite full. (G)

Most often, the major sweet we have on hand is some form of
chocolate. We've still got some that we got out in Ohio in May, plus
and some bars we got at Ikea last summer. Bit by bit tho, it is disappearing. (G)

Laugh. Andrea goes through stages where she'll buy chocolate, then
it won't be here for months and months. I try to not buy stuff like
that as if it's in the apartment I'll eat it.

We know it's there, but just eat it a little bit at a time, and
intersperse other goodies.

---
Catch you later,
Ruth
rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


... Our necessities are few but our wants are endless...

--- PPoint 3.01
* Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)

Hi Ruth,

he passed away. I think it took Mom several months to grieve before
she felt like doing any of the activities the place offered but she
is enjoying them now. Also nice that family is close by and can pop
a visit easily.

That's normal to grieve for a few months at first anyway. Glad she is doing better and taking advantage of some of the programs offered.

Actually, 2 people because Dad would close out the letter with
usually a fairly substantual note of his own. Toward the end, he was writing, as Mom's mind was too far gone.

When my Nana passed away that was the end of the letter writing I saw.
She used to write her family back in Alberta and being that they were from
the depression era they used this criss cross way of writing to get 8 total pages out of one peice of paper.

Even if I had one of her letters, I don't think there is anyone left alive who can
read that. hahaha

brought on the dementia rather rapidly.....looking back, we saw some
signs of it coming on but didn't recognise them for what they were
until too late.

We are glad in a way my sister is a type of nurse so she saw signs with Dad
and for the most part he's okay... mellowed a lot but does get frustrated when he can't remember something.

We know it's there, but just eat it a little bit at a time, and intersperse other goodies.

I have no will power. ;)

Shawn

--- Grumble
* Origin: I can't be stupid, I completed third grade! (1:229/452)

Hi Shawn,

he passed away. I think it took Mom several months to grieve before
she felt like doing any of the activities the place offered but she
is enjoying them now. Also nice that family is close by and can pop
a visit easily.

That's normal to grieve for a few months at first anyway. Glad she is doing better and taking advantage of some of the programs offered.

And complaining about the cooking. She gave the kitchen some of her
recipies when she first moved in but they've never used them. Probably
hard to scale up in huge quantities if you're not used to doing that
however. Good thing tho is that she is part of a group that they let mix
up (baking done in the facility's kitchen) pie, cakes, various other
treats from time to time. Also, my one sister in law will pick her up
and take her home to do some baking, especially around holidays. Mom has
to have tight supervision when doing that but she does enjoy working in
the kitchen.

Actually, 2 people because Dad would close out the letter with
usually a fairly substantual note of his own. Toward the end, he was writing, as Mom's mind was too far gone.

When my Nana passed away that was the end of the letter writing I saw.
She used to write her family back in Alberta and being that they were
from the depression era they used this criss cross way of writing to
get 8 total pages out of one peice of paper.

I've read about that being done, especially in the time of the American
War Between the States, on the Southern side.

Even if I had one of her letters, I don't think there is anyone left
alive who can read that. hahaha

Takes a special skill to figure it out. Now if everybody wrote in a
different colored ink, it might be easier to decipher.

brought on the dementia rather rapidly.....looking back, we saw some
signs of it coming on but didn't recognise them for what they were
until too late.

We are glad in a way my sister is a type of nurse so she saw signs
with Dad and for the most part he's okay... mellowed a lot but does
get frustrated when he can't remember something.

Is his a quiet, gentle dementia? That's what my mom's was but my dad
said that his grandmother had a mean, nasty dementia. It took Dad sveral
years (until about 6 months before Mom passed away) that he could bring
himself to use the word dementia to describe her.

We know it's there, but just eat it a little bit at a time, and intersperse other goodies.

I have no will power. ;)

More like won't power? (G)

---
Catch you later,
Ruth
rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


... If your mind goes blank, remember to turn off the sound.

--- PPoint 3.01
* Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)

Hi Ruth,
On <Sat, 01 Nov 24>, you wrote me:

And complaining about the cooking. She gave the kitchen some of her recipies when she first moved in but they've never used them.

Laugh. That's to be expected from anyone who cooked. :) They thanked
her and promptly threw the recipes out. Probably have a huge list of ingredients they can't use, and another list of ones they must use to cook
for that many people.

Seasoning?! No, this is for a home. We just boil everything and slop it
on a plate.

treats from time to time. Also, my one sister in law will pick her up
and take her home to do some baking, especially around holidays. Mom
has to have tight supervision when doing that but she does enjoy

That's nice though. I'm sure the SIL pays close attention.

writing to get 8 total pages out of one peice of paper.

I've read about that being done, especially in the time of the
American War Between the States, on the Southern side.

The crazy thing was her husband worked in a printing press and used to
get all the notepads you want from scrap paper. He'd save up the scraps
cut them to the same size and run them through the machine to stick 'em together. The entire family got free paper for 45 years.

They still criss crossed it. I'm going to ask my mother if she has any
of the old letters from her, and scan one if she does.

Takes a special skill to figure it out. Now if everybody wrote in a different colored ink, it might be easier to decipher.

Plus she had a very "loopy" hand writing style as she was a left handed
person who the teachers smacked until she learned to use her right hand.

Is his a quiet, gentle dementia? That's what my mom's was but my dad

Mostly yes. He's settled down and even lets the kids climb on him now. LOL

said that his grandmother had a mean, nasty dementia. It took Dad

He can get nasty, especially with Mom, but she just turns off her hearing
aids so she can't hear him. He has a bell that she can hear without them
if he falls or anything serious happens.

Shawn

* SeM. 2.26 * CP .... ? Math Problems? Call 1-800- 10x(24+13)-(64-16)/
--- SBBSecho 3.21-Linux
* Origin: _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (1:154/700)

Hi Shawn,

And complaining about the cooking. She gave the kitchen some of her recipies when she first moved in but they've never used them.

Laugh. That's to be expected from anyone who cooked. :) They thanked
her and promptly threw the recipes out. Probably have a huge list of ingredients they can't use, and another list of ones they must use to
cook for that many people.

Most likely, and with all the food restrictions people in those places
have, it wouldn't have been a good idea. If Joe can't tolerate garlic
but has no problem with salt and Mary can't have salt but likes garlic,
then Mom's recipe wouldn't have been able to be eaten bu either of them. Multiply it by ever how many people are in a place like that and you get
bland, boring food.

Seasoning?! No, this is for a home. We just boil everything and slop
it on a plate.

That's about right.

treats from time to time. Also, my one sister in law will pick her up
and take her home to do some baking, especially around holidays. Mom
has to have tight supervision when doing that but she does enjoy

That's nice though. I'm sure the SIL pays close attention.

Definatly! She's also a nurse and goes with Mom for her medical
appointments.

writing to get 8 total pages out of one peice of paper.

I've read about that being done, especially in the time of the
American War Between the States, on the Southern side.

The crazy thing was her husband worked in a printing press and used to
get all the notepads you want from scrap paper. He'd save up the
scraps cut them to the same size and run them through the machine to
stick 'em together. The entire family got free paper for 45 years.

They still criss crossed it. I'm going to ask my mother if she has
any of the old letters from her, and scan one if she does.

Takes a special skill to figure it out. Now if everybody wrote in a different colored ink, it might be easier to decipher.

Plus she had a very "loopy" hand writing style as she was a left
handed person who the teachers smacked until she learned to use her
right hand.

My parents/teachers foreced me to use my right hand for a number of
years; I think I was in my early teens when I switched back. It just
felt more comfortable. Now, to a certain extent, I'm ambidexterous (or
as Steve likes to say, "amphibious").

Is his a quiet, gentle dementia? That's what my mom's was but my dad

Mostly yes. He's settled down and even lets the kids climb on him
now. LOL

said that his grandmother had a mean, nasty dementia. It took Dad

He can get nasty, especially with Mom, but she just turns off her
hearing aids so she can't hear him. He has a bell that she can hear without them if he falls or anything serious happens.

Shawn

* SeM. 2.26 * CP .... ? Math Problems? Call 1-800-
10x(24+13)-(64-16)/ --- SBBSecho 3.21-Linux
* Origin: _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)
(1:154/700)

---
Catch you later,
Ruth
rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


... Are you sure you really want to know that?

--- PPoint 3.01
* Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)

Ruth Haffly wrote in a message to Shawn Highfield:

be eaten bu either of them. Multiply it by ever how many people are
in a place like that and you get bland, boring food.

Exactly! That's why I guessed they didn't use her recipes.

Seasoning?! No, this is for a home. We just boil everything and slop
it on a plate.

That's about right.

:)

Definatly! She's also a nurse and goes with Mom for her medical appointments.

That is quite handy! Same with me I have my sister who's a nurse.

handed person who the teachers smacked until she learned to use her
right hand.

My parents/teachers foreced me to use my right hand for a number of
years; I think I was in my early teens when I switched back. It just
felt more comfortable. Now, to a certain extent, I'm ambidexterous
(or as Steve likes to say, "amphibious").

She never did switch back, but she would have also been quite a bit older then you, she was born in 1929.

Shawn

... Useless Invention: Electric banana straightener.
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: Dirty ole' Town (1:229/452)

Hi Shawn,

be eaten bu either of them. Multiply it by ever how many people are
in a place like that and you get bland, boring food.

Exactly! That's why I guessed they didn't use her recipes.

Plus the fact that if even a quarter of the occupants had done so, there
would have been a lot of different recipies for the same dish, again
satisfying only the original contributor.

Seasoning?! No, this is for a home. We just boil everything and slop
it on a plate.

That's about right.

:)

My in laws were in an assisted living place in Florida for a couple of
years, had the only unit with a working stove. (Mom wouldn't move in
unless it was working.) I suspect it's now non working but Mom used it a
lot, cooking for herself and Dad, baking (lots of cookies for the
staff), even doing a small turkey one year for Thanksgiving. That year
we came down and I made my grandmother's green bean recipe on that
stove and Steve's older sister (living in the same town) brought
something so we had quite a fancy dinner. The next year Covid killed any
travel plans, then my in laws moved up to New York State.

Definatly! She's also a nurse and goes with Mom for her medical appointments.

That is quite handy! Same with me I have my sister who's a nurse.

Helps to have a second person, especially one who is trained in the
medical field for times like that. I know Mom wouldn't catch all that a
doctor told her if she went by herself, or get things mixed up, so the (trained) second set of ears is good. I presume you run things by your
sister for verification also.

handed person who the teachers smacked until she learned to use her
right hand.

My parents/teachers foreced me to use my right hand for a number of
years; I think I was in my early teens when I switched back. It just
felt more comfortable. Now, to a certain extent, I'm ambidexterous
(or as Steve likes to say, "amphibious").

She never did switch back, but she would have also been quite a bit
older then you, she was born in 1929.

That was the year my mom was born. Her handwriting was always bad; we
called it "chicken scratch" because it looked like a chicken had walked
across the paper. She said that her father was a left handed but forced
to use his right hand child; I've halfway wondered if that was the same situation for her.


---
Catch you later,
Ruth
rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


... Mind... Mind... Let's see, I had one of those around here someplace.

--- PPoint 3.01
* Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)

Ruth Haffly wrote in a message to Shawn Highfield:

in unless it was working.) I suspect it's now non working but Mom
used it a lot, cooking for herself and Dad, baking (lots of cookies
for the staff), even doing a small turkey one year for Thanksgiving.

Very nice! I suspect you are right that the stone is now long gone.

Covid killed any travel plans, then my in laws moved up to New York
State.

New york state is nice.

that a doctor told her if she went by herself, or get things mixed
up, so the (trained) second set of ears is good. I presume you run
things by your sister for verification also.

Oh yes, if something doesn't sound right I call her and let her know what I was told, and she either has the answer already or will promptly drive over and figure it out. She lives 5 mins away, I am 1.5 hour drive away so she gets the brunt of the work.

That was the year my mom was born. Her handwriting was always bad;

I can't believe it's coming up on 100. She passed away in 1992 I believe it was.

walked across the paper. She said that her father was a left handed
but forced to use his right hand child; I've halfway wondered if
that was the same situation for her.

Quite probably!

Shawn
... Camping (n.): See "Heat Stroke", "Mud", and "Insects".
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: Dirty ole' Town (1:229/452)

Hi Shawn,

in unless it was working.) I suspect it's now non working but Mom
used it a lot, cooking for herself and Dad, baking (lots of cookies
for the staff), even doing a small turkey one year for Thanksgiving.

Very nice! I suspect you are right that the stove is now long

gone.

I'm surprised they actually had one that worked. The kitchen area also
had a fridge and microwave, plus a decent sized sink but counter space
and storage space was very limited. There was also room in the apartment
for a small dining table between one side of the kitchen and living
room.

Covid killed any travel plans, then my in laws moved up to New York
State.

New york state is nice.

Cut off Westchester County and anything south of that, make it into
another state and you'll have a nice state to its' north. (G)

that a doctor told her if she went by herself, or get things mixed
up, so the (trained) second set of ears is good. I presume you run
things by your sister for verification also.

Oh yes, if something doesn't sound right I call her and let her know
what I was told, and she either has the answer already or will
promptly drive over and figure it out. She lives 5 mins away, I am
1.5 hour drive away so she gets the brunt of the work.

My nearest siblings live several states north of here, takes more than a
day's drive.

That was the year my mom was born. Her handwriting was always bad;

I can't believe it's coming up on 100. She passed away in 1992 I
believe it was.

My mom passed away in 2014, dad in 2017. We always thought Dad would go
first; he was 7 years older and had several health issues. Didn't count
on Mom's dementia taking her but a couple of other side issues
exacerbated it.

walked across the paper. She said that her father was a left handed
but forced to use his right hand child; I've halfway wondered if
that was the same situation for her.

Quite probably!

I'd say "most likely".

... Camping (n.): See "Heat Stroke", "Mud", and "Insects".

I grew up camping in tents; we called anything else "cheat camping". You
know, I'm enjoying the way I camp now more than the tents. (G)

---
Catch you later,
Ruth
rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


... I'm clinging to sanity by a thread. Hand me those scissors.

--- PPoint 3.01
* Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)

Hello Ruth!

08 Nov 24 13:54, you wrote to me:

I'm surprised they actually had one that worked. The kitchen area also

I wonder if a previous tenant smuggled it in? Or paid a whole heck of a lot extra for them to allow it.

apartment for a small dining table between one side of the kitchen and living room.

That sounds okay.

My nearest siblings live several states north of here, takes more than
a day's drive.

Well I guess I"m lucky. Of course I can't remember the last time I saw my sister in person... probably 8 years now.

... Camping (n.): See "Heat Stroke", "Mud", and "Insects".

I grew up camping in tents; we called anything else "cheat camping".
You know, I'm enjoying the way I camp now more than the tents. (G)

Same here. I'd never want to go back to a tent.

Shawn

... Marriage? No thanks, I don't breed well in captivity.
---
* Origin: Dirty Ole Town (1:229/452)

Hi Shawn,

I'm surprised they actually had one that worked. The kitchen area also

I wonder if a previous tenant smuggled it in? Or paid a whole heck of
a lot extra for them to allow it.

I know at least one other unit (visiting with my MIL) had a stove so I
presume more were working at one time. Then, as more people moved in
with Althezheimer's or other dementias, the managment disconnected the
stoves for safety reasons.

apartment for a small dining table between one side of the kitchen and living room.

That sounds okay.

It worked well for 2 people who didn't get out that much. Before they
moved there, they lived in an "over 55" manufactured home community and
used a golf cart to get around in it. Steve's older sister and her
husband had moved there a few years before and took mom & dad for
shopping, medical appointments, etc after they stopped driving. They
continued chauffering them around after the move but mom & dad weren't
able to get out to see friends or participate in the activities of the community where they'd lived.

My nearest siblings live several states north of here, takes more than
a day's drive.

Well I guess I"m lucky. Of course I can't remember the last time I
saw my sister in person... probably 8 years now.

It's been close to that for me.

... Camping (n.): See "Heat Stroke", "Mud", and "Insects".

I grew up camping in tents; we called anything else "cheat camping".
You know, I'm enjoying the way I camp now more than the tents. (G)

Same here. I'd never want to go back to a tent.

I'd have a hard time getting up from the ground. (G)

---
Catch you later,
Ruth
rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


... Gone crazy, be back later. leave a message at the Beep!

--- PPoint 3.01
* Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)

Hello Ruth!

I know at least one other unit (visiting with my MIL) had a stove so I presume more were working at one time. Then, as more people moved in
with Althezheimer's or other dementias, the managment disconnected the stoves for safety reasons.

Oh interesting. I know the assisted homes around here only have the shared kitchen / dining room you can book if you are having family etc. I believe someone has to sign a form stating they are in charge of the stove as well.

It worked well for 2 people who didn't get out that much. Before they moved there, they lived in an "over 55" manufactured home community

This is what I wish my parents would have done. Instead they bought a condo townhouse and promptly dad got involved in running the entire place. Mom got him to step down a few years back though. So now he's just all alone when she goes out.

I saw my sister in person... probably 8 years now.

It's been close to that for me.

I don't feel so bad now. I always think I'm a bad brother, but whenever I make the drive she is busy, and even though her husband and her visit a store half a block from here they won't pop in.

Same here. I'd never want to go back to a tent.

I'd have a hard time getting up from the ground. (G)

I can still get up from the ground. However I don't enjoy it. :) Pain levels are through the roof on a good day right now.

Shawn

... 11+10=101? Congratulations! Here's your high school diploma!
---
* Origin: Dirty Ole Town (1:229/452)

Hi Shawn,

I know at least one other unit (visiting with my MIL) had a stove so I presume more were working at one time. Then, as more people moved in
with Althezheimer's or other dementias, the managment disconnected the stoves for safety reasons.

Oh interesting. I know the assisted homes around here only have the shared kitchen / dining room you can book if you are having family
etc. I believe someone has to sign a form stating they are in charge
of the stove as well.

All of the other places I've seen have just a central dining room and commercial kitchen. As part of the activities, the place Mom is in will
have someone come in and supervise a group of people doing something
like making pies, cookies, etc. They're then baked in the commercial
kitchen and returned to the makers or used as part of a meal. Mom has a
full size fridge, a small microwave and a full size sink in her
apartment so she can do some food prep on her own but usually eats in
the central dining room.

It worked well for 2 people who didn't get out that much. Before

they RH> moved there, they lived in an "over 55" manufactured home
community

This is what I wish my parents would have done. Instead they bought a condo townhouse and promptly dad got involved in running the entire
place. Mom got him to step down a few years back though. So now
he's just all alone when she goes out.

My parents stayed in their own house (Dad built it in the mid 50s.)
until Mom went into the nursing home, dementia unit until she passed
away about 20 months later. A couple of months after she passed away,
Dad needed emergency surgery in a nearby town. My brother (only one
nearby) put him in a nursing home after that; he lived there about 32
months later. Dad had been living at home, with a live in caregiver for
about 15 months before then. Now my brother owns the family home.

I saw my sister in person... probably 8 years now. RH> It's

been close to that for me.

I don't feel so bad now. I always think I'm a bad brother, but
whenever I make the drive she is busy, and even though her husband and
her visit a store half a block from here they won't pop in.

I've a sister and brother in NY, several hours north of NYC and a sister
in the Phoenix area. Saw the 2 from NY for about 5 minutes 6 years ago,
the other sister saw for the last time 7 years ago at Dad's funeral.

Same here. I'd never want to go back to a tent.

I'd have a hard time getting up from the ground. (G)

I can still get up from the ground. However I don't enjoy it. :)
Pain levels are through the roof on a good day right now.

I can get up, but it takes more work and hopefully something to grab
hold of. Pain levels ebb and flow but are usually manageable with low
levels of medication thru out the day.

---
Catch you later,
Ruth
rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


... Growing old is mandatory... growing up is optional.

--- PPoint 3.01
* Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)

Hello Ruth!

13 Nov 24 12:31, you wrote to me:

meal. Mom has a full size fridge, a small microwave and a full size
sink in her apartment so she can do some food prep on her own but
usually eats in the central dining room.

That's not too bad then, at least if she's not feeling like being around people she can heat up soup or something,

months later. Dad had been living at home, with a live in caregiver
for about 15 months before then. Now my brother owns the family home.

Good that it stayed in the family after your parents had to move out.

I can get up, but it takes more work and hopefully something to grab
hold of. Pain levels ebb and flow but are usually manageable with low levels of medication thru out the day.

I'm in near constant pain now but thankfully I don't need any medication yet, I just deal with it and limp / move slow / get in everones way. Once a day I allow myself a smoke of cannabis which takes the pain away enough I can get to sleep. I had a script for it for years and years, but gave it up when they legalized it for all use here, it's easier to just walk to one of the many thousand stores. LOL

Shawn

... Don't kiss an elephant on the lips today.
---
* Origin: Dirty Ole Town (1:229/452)

Hi Shawn,

meal. Mom has a full size fridge, a small microwave and a full size
sink in her apartment so she can do some food prep on her own but
usually eats in the central dining room.

That's not too bad then, at least if she's not feeling like being
around people she can heat up soup or something,

True, she is able to get out and shop for her favorite soups, cold cuts,
etc.

months later. Dad had been living at home, with a live in caregiver
for about 15 months before then. Now my brother owns the family home.

Good that it stayed in the family after your parents had to move out.

Yes, the thought crossed our mind about buying it but we were never in
the place to do so. My brother was so we let him have it.

I can get up, but it takes more work and hopefully something to grab
hold of. Pain levels ebb and flow but are usually manageable with low levels of medication thru out the day.

I'm in near constant pain now but thankfully I don't need any
medication yet, I just deal with it and limp / move slow / get in
everones way. Once a day I allow myself a smoke of cannabis which
takes the pain away enough I can get to sleep. I had a script for it
for years and years, but gave it up when they legalized it for all use here, it's easier to just walk to one of the many thousand stores.
LOL

I use prescription meds, don't want to put any smoke down already
damaged lungs.

---
Catch you later,
Ruth
rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


... Are you sure you really want to know that?

--- PPoint 3.01
* Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)

Ruth Haffly wrote in a message to Shawn Highfield:

True, she is able to get out and shop for her favorite soups, cold
cuts, etc.

That's the main thing.

Yes, the thought crossed our mind about buying it but we were never
in the place to do so. My brother was so we let him have it.

I understand that. I was in a position to buy a family home and I did, however times changed and I ended up having to sell it. Ah well sometimes life doesn't go the way we want.

... I'm tired of thinking up new taglines
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: Dirty ole' Town (1:229/452)

Hi Shawn,

Yes, the thought crossed our mind about buying it but we were never
in the place to do so. My brother was so we let him have it.

I understand that. I was in a position to buy a family home and I
did, however times changed and I ended up having to sell it. Ah well sometimes life doesn't go the way we want.

Some people do live life the way they thought they would as they were
growing up. I think that's a rather small percentage tho; there's
usually something that will change their life in previously unforseen
ways. One of the big events that changed our direction was when Steve
enlisted in the Army. We lived in a lot of new/different places and as
part of that, ate a lot of different foods we never knew existed or had
maybe just read about. We'd never thought about living in AZ but about a
year after we moved there, one of Steve's computer friends introduced
him to Fido...............and here I am.

I'd not heard of an Ocracoke fig cake the first time we lived in NC but
some time after we moved back to the state, the Raleigh paper had an
article about it. At the time it was just an interesting read but when
we bought this house and Steve planted a fig tree, I needed something to
do with all the figs we got last year. I remembered the article, went on
a recipies site and found a recipe. It's now part of my cooking
"heritage".







---
Catch you later,
Ruth
rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


... ... Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans-J. Lennon

--- PPoint 3.01
* Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)

Hi Ruth,
On <Mon, 17 Nov 24>, you wrote me:

Some people do live life the way they thought they would as they were growing up. I think that's a rather small percentage tho; there's

I would agree.

maybe just read about. We'd never thought about living in AZ but
about a year after we moved there, one of Steve's computer friends introduced him to Fido...............and here I am.

Well glad he told you about it! ;)

do with all the figs we got last year. I remembered the article, went
on a recipes site and found a recipe. It's now part of my cooking "heritage".

Very nice!

Shawn
... Don't mind me; I'm the designated drunk.


--- Grumble
* Origin: From the Dirty Shwa (1:229/452)

Hi Shawn,

Some people do live life the way they thought they would as they were growing up. I think that's a rather small percentage tho; there's

I would agree.

I think some of my siblings may fit into that category. One lives in the
house he came home from the hospital as a newborn to; another lives a
couple of hours away. Knowing what I do about their lives leads me to
that conclusion.

maybe just read about. We'd never thought about living in AZ but
about a year after we moved there, one of Steve's computer friends introduced him to Fido...............and here I am.

Well glad he told you about it! ;)

Yes, I was also in a crafting and a sewing/quilting echo while they
existed. I miss them at times but not the negative aspects (that's all
I'll say) of them.

do with all the figs we got last year. I remembered the article, went
on a recipes site and found a recipe. It's now part of my cooking "heritage".

Very nice!

The fig cake is quite popular whenever I bring it to an event. Last
winter I brought it to an American Legion/Auxiliary dinner and had 3
requests for the recipe once word got out who brought the cake.

---
Catch you later,
Ruth
rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


... It works! Now, if only I could remember what I did.

--- PPoint 3.01
* Origin: Sew! That's My Point (1:396/45.28)

Hi Ruth,
On <Wed, 19 Nov 24>, you wrote me:

Yes, I was also in a crafting and a sewing/quilting echo while they existed. I miss them at times but not the negative aspects (that's
all I'll say) of them.

Probably a long gone echo now anyway. So many of them are no longer
used.

The fig cake is quite popular whenever I bring it to an event. Last
winter I brought it to an American Legion/Auxiliary dinner and had 3 requests for the recipe once word got out who brought the cake.

That's great. I've never tried a fig cake, but I'm sure I'd like it as
I like most fig dishes I've tried.

Shawn

... Junk - stuff we throw away. Stuff - junk we keep.


--- Grumble
* Origin: Dirty Ole' Town (1:229/452)