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  • Re: Freedom and Democrac

    From Dumas Walker@1:2320/107 to Rug Rat on Tue Jun 30 14:06:00 2026
    Rug Rat wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    In the case of Gyms, stores, resturants, etc. They are private
    businesses accesible to the public. They CAN restrict activies on
    their premisis as long as it applied to EVERYONE. Though then can ask/tell you to not film/take photos, they can not touch you, demand
    you delete the footage, take, or dammage your gear. At most they can
    call the police and have you tresspassed.

    In public almost everything is far game.. If you want "privacy" stay
    home or wear a bag over your head. I will not sacrifice rights for
    your < General / you specifically. >

    So you enjoy taking photos and videos of persons without their permission? Creepy.

    If you are taking photos or footage of a crowd, that is one thing. IMHO, people have a right not to be singled out without their permission, and
    they shouldn't have to stay at home in exercise it. Your have rights, but
    they can end where the rights of others begin. Like, you have the right to free speech but not to cause a public panic or threaten people. You have the right to own a firearm but not to point it at people and fire it. You have
    the right to assemble but not to riot. Etc.


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  • From ROB MCCART@1:2320/107 to RUG RAT on Wed Jul 1 06:02:00 2026
    The laws are written subjectively, there is no "reasonable person" test. So
    >I go down to the beach and take a picture of 2 women playing with a beach bal
    >or a woman walking by a pier. The only requirement for me to get jacked up i
    >or them to "feel" sexually shamed. The reasonable argument would be, "Well i
    >ou feel sexually shamed because someone took a picture of it, why would you n
    >feel the same shame just being out in public where everyone can see you.."

    Along that line..

    That reminded me of a funny (?) thing that happened many years ago
    when I was working part time in a grocery store after school.
    A lady was bent over a bunker type cooler in the store reaching
    for something and the store manager noticed an employee had stopped
    and was watching her from behind, since she had a tiny skirt on and
    much of her 'behind' was readily on view..

    The manager quietly pulled the employee aside and said that it is
    rude to look at her in that situation.. and the man replied..

    "If she didn't want an audience, she shouldn't put on a show." B)

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    þ SLMR Rob þ Standards are wonderful... So many to choose from! þ

    --- Scorpio BBS
    * Origin: Capitol City Online (1:2320/107)
  • From Rob Mccart@1:2320/107 to RUG RAT on Fri Jul 3 05:51:00 2026
    "If she didn't want an audience, she shouldn't put on a show."

    However nobody wants to take responsilbiity or accountability any more.

    No, but that's an age old issue really. Lots of women have forever
    gone out in public wearing very sexy clothing but take offence if
    someone is looking that them that they don't want to attract.

    However these days I don't know what's acceptable anymore..

    I really wish we would break away from trying to please every
    group of people out there and just have basic laws that treat
    everyone equally and fairly.

    Reverse prejudice is still prejudice.. You can't protect one
    groups rights by taking away another group's rights.
    Fight for equality, not special treatment.

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    þ SLMR Rob þ A big enough gun will adjust any attitude þ

    --- Scorpio BBS
    * Origin: Capitol City Online (1:2320/107)