I dislike "The Cloud" I have always looked in disbelief that the US Government, especially the DoD migrated more and more of their infrastructure into the cloud..

I have never trusted it either. Apple (and other phone OSes) have their clouds, which of course were all hacked and lead to the scandal with a lot
of female celebs having nude photos leaked online. IIRC, it was called the Frappening.

Some of the bigwigs where I worked (state government) were big on jumping
onto that bandwagon trend but, at least while I was there (until 2023),
they never did.


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I dislike "The Cloud" I have always looked in disbelief that the US

>Government, especially the DoD migrated more and more of their
>infrastructure into the cloud..

Until the last couple of years I saw no great use for it but I did
finally start using it the last couple of years. It can have it's
uses - great for having a backup of files you may need on other
devices and transferring those files between devices.

That said, I don't keep anything too critical there and anything close
to private I have in password protected Zip files and if there are
things like passwords in those files, I also have shortcuts that remind
me of what they are but wouldn't be of any use to anyone else.

I also ignore the 4 cloud accounts I automatically got from various
eMail and computer accounts and I use one that is located in Canada
and is encrypted in both directions for extra security. (Sync.com)

The only mild 'complaint' I might make is I get a lot of eMails from
them trying to upgrade me to a paid account with hundreds of gigs of
storage but, since I don't use anywhere near the 5 gigs I get for
free, I just ignore those.

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I dislike "The Cloud" I have always looked in disbelief that the US

>> Government, especially the DoD migrated more and more of their infrastructu
>> into the cloud..

I have never trusted it either. Apple (and other phone OSes) have their

>clouds, which of course were all hacked and lead to the scandal with a lot
>of female celebs having nude photos leaked online.

I tend to avoid the big commercial ones. I was given one from Android
and one from Microsoft and two from 2 eMail account services but I
figure those might be common targets.

But I see some value for cloud accounts if you pick the right one and
then don't put anything too confidential on it.

But it never ceases to amaze me when people have hundreds of photos automatically sent to the Cloud ever time they take a shot.
I avoid any automated backup options and I don't put anything out
there unless I give it some thought first..
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Rob Mccart wrote to RUG RAT <=-

I dislike "The Cloud" I have always looked in disbelief that the US

>Government, especially the DoD migrated more and more of their
>infrastructure into the cloud..

Until the last couple of years I saw no great use for it but I did
finally start using it the last couple of years. It can have it's
uses - great for having a backup of files you may need on other
devices and transferring those files between devices.

There are specific rules for government cloud use - Microsoft's GovCloud
is only housed on US servers. As a rule, you encrypt all traffic on the
wire and encrypt data at rest on volumes. You set up ExpressRoute,
essentially a dedicated line into Microsoft's data space, so your
traffic doesn't go across the public internet to get to Microsoft.

It's good enough for law enforcement and E911 use.

As for the DOD, I suppose nowadays it's as much a private enterprise as
it is government entity with contractor use. They'd need to allow
external access. A cloud is a great way to do so with culpable
deniability. It's Microsoft's Fault!



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Rob Mccart wrote to MIKE POWELL <=-

I tend to avoid the big commercial ones. I was given one from Android
and one from Microsoft and two from 2 eMail account services but I
figure those might be common targets.

Gmail does have some intrinsic value. The search feature came in handy
when I needed to search for legal documents in my mail archive. I use it
now, because, eh.

I'd like to go back to self-hosting, it's in my blood - both
professionally and as a guy who's had a BBS running in his house since
1990.

The problem is that the big providers make money off of data from "free"
email users' information and, in my opinion, are inclined to mark as
SPAM mail not from other large providers.

My primary domain is hosted at Dreamhost. I could leave mail there and
read it via webmail, use an IMAP client, or download it via POP. I'm
tempted to do the last option, so mail sits on an encrypted volume at my
house instead of on someone else's computer. it's cleartext in
transit, but you'd have to catch it coming in.




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Hello Rob!

** On Thursday 24.07.25 - 08:20, Rob Mccart wrote to RUG RAT:

I also ignore the 4 cloud accounts I automatically got from various
eMail and computer accounts and I use one that is located in Canada
and is encrypted in both directions for extra security. (Sync.com)

Sync.com = Canadian? Interesting.

So.. basically they are like another Protonmail file server?

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The problem is that the big providers make money off of data from "free" email users' information and, in my opinion, are inclined to mark as
SPAM mail not from other large providers.

gmail makes it difficult, imho, for "not large providers" to send mail to people with gmail accounts.

Mike


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I tend to avoid the big commercial Cloud sites. I was given one from Android and one from Microsoft and two from 2 eMail account services
but I figure those might be common targets.

Gmail does have some intrinsic value. The search feature came in handy

>when I needed to search for legal documents in my mail archive. I use it
>now, because, eh.

Yes, I'm not even sure what all the Cloud storage place I use offers
since I use it in a very small way. I just have a couple of dozen
files on there for backup or transfer and I can get an address for
a specific file to send to someone else so they can directly download
just that one file from the site with no access to anything else, unless
I set up a Folder there that can be shared with all content available.
They also keep backups of files you update there, but only for a month
if you are not paying a fee to use the service. Paid users get a year.

I'd like to go back to self-hosting, it's in my blood - both

>professionally and as a guy who's had a BBS running in his house since
>1990.

Wow.. that's almost as long as I've been a user on BBS systems... B)

I once set up a BBS of my own but my limited access to internet
made it impractical. It was more just to see if I could do it.
It looked good anyways since I used to design the screens for
some commercial BBS systems in the area, back when you had to
design them by hand.. No 'cheats' like The Draw or later MS Word.
I often Moderated the Tech conferences as well and that got me
access without having to pay a monthly fee for it..

Thinking back to the early 90's when BBS systems were the way to
go, I was often using 5 or 6 of them at the same time..

The problem is that the big providers make money off of data from "free"

>email users' information and, in my opinion, are inclined to mark as
>SPAM mail not from other large providers.

Yes, the huge places like Google and Microsoft make a lot of money
from getting ads to you and/or selling your personal info to whoever
will pay for it..

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I also ignore the 4 cloud accounts I automatically got from various
eMail and computer accounts and I use one that is located in Canada
and is encrypted in both directions for extra security. (Sync.com)

Sync.com = Canadian? Interesting.

Yes, that was a bit of a surprise. They are located in Toronto
and Scarborough and are 100% Canadian owned and operated.

So.. basically they are like another Protonmail file server?

I assume that is more a secure eMail provider service where Sync
is just a file and system backup provider. No eMail service there.

They have Apps that automate backups if you get into using
it more seriously but I just have a couple of dozen files I
regularly keep there so I do it manually.

The free version gives you 5 gig of storage and about the only
hassle really has been getting frequent eMails with offers to
upgrade to their paid services, which is understandable I suppose.
No other ads from anyone else through them though.

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Rob Mccart wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-

The problem is that the big providers make money off of data from "free"

>email users' information and, in my opinion, are inclined to mark as
>SPAM mail not from other large providers.

Yes, the huge places like Google and Microsoft make a lot of money
from getting ads to you and/or selling your personal info to whoever
will pay for it..

True. With regards to mail, the large carriers have a lackadaisical
approach to removing false positives, almost as if they'd prefer you
give up and move to their service! :)



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Hello Rob!

** On Sunday 27.07.25 - 08:17, you wrote to me:

So.. basically they are like another Protonmail file server?

I assume that is more a secure eMail provider service where Sync
is just a file and system backup provider. No eMail service there.

They have Apps that automate backups if you get into using
it more seriously but I just have a couple of dozen files I
regularly keep there so I do it manually.

"Upload, sync, and share files from your Windows desktop,
laptop or tablet. Supports Windows 8, 10, and 11."

..well, I'm at Win7 max, so that ain't gonna work for me.

For now, I use a combination of Proton storage and rclone
methods to sync and keep backups.

The free version gives you 5 gig of storage..

Yes.. that seems quite generous. I think Protons file storage
is only 2GB. My MS Outlook .PST file alone is 1.8GB
compressed!

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Yes, the huge places like Google and Microsoft make a lot of money
from getting ads to you and/or selling your personal info to whoever
will pay for it..

True. With regards to mail, the large carriers have a lackadaisical

>approach to removing false positives, almost as if they'd prefer you
>give up and move to their service! :)

I find most services don't do much about that. The worst thing,
probably just an excuse to make your life miserable if you use
some other service, if anyone from some eMail provider, even if
they have many millions of users, will block all eMail from that
service if one person there gets caught sending out Spam and such.

I've had to go online a few times and fill out forms to have my
address removed from someones's automatic eMail blocking.

I don't have a lot of user experience with gMail since, although
I am required to have an account there for devices, I have anything
sent to me at gMail automatically forwarded to another of my eMail
addresses and, if it requires a reply, I will usually switch the
sender over to use my other address instead.

Just looking online and apparently gMail has 1.8 Billion users,
or about 1/4 of everyone world wide with an eMail address.
No wonder they like to play the Bully.. B)

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Re: Re: MS SharePoint server
By: Mike Powell to KURT WEISKE on Sat Jul 26 2025 11:10 am

gmail makes it difficult, imho, for "not large providers" to send mail to people with gmail accounts.

The sender just needs a valid SPF DNS record. Nothing "large" about that.
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They have Apps that automate backups if you get into using
it more seriously but I just have a couple of dozen files I
regularly keep there so I do it manually.

"Upload, sync, and share files from your Windows desktop,

>laptop or tablet. Supports Windows 8, 10, and 11."

..well, I'm at Win7 max, so that ain't gonna work for me.

Yes, My main conputer is Win7 as well.. They do have Apps for
Android and Apple Phones and I do frequently access Sync using
my phone but, because I'm using it so light duty, I just use a
browser on the phone.

For now, I use a combination of Proton storage and rclone

>methods to sync and keep backups.

I was looking at that and that seems a fairly safe outfit too,
although it is based in the Switzerland instead of Canada.
That's probably better than China or Russia though.. B)

The Sync free version gives you 5 gig of storage..

Yes.. that seems quite generous. I think Protons file storage

>is only 2GB. My MS Outlook .PST file alone is 1.8GB
>compressed!

Yes, my main 2 eMail services each give me 2 gig of storage for
files or saved messages but I don't use any of that other than
for regular eMail traffic.

But gMail gives you 15gig if you want to trust them.. B)

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