Hello All!

I have been experiencing some passwd errors I am not sure if its binkd or hpt. I host now 4 ftns on my hub and some of my downlinks are subscribed to more than one. Can they have different passwords for each network or do they have to be the same? I know yesterday I fixed it with the downlink by making his different networks have the same passwd but I have others with different ones that work just fine?

Regards,

Rick

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On 09 Feb 24 06:28:00, Rick Smith said the following to All:

I have been experiencing some passwd errors I am not sure if its binkd or hpt. I host now 4 ftns on my hub and some of my downlinks are subscribed t more than one. Can they have different passwords for each network or do th have to be the same? I know yesterday I fixed it with the downlink by maki

In my experience dealing with different types of inbound BinkD connections here, many weird "problems" with multi-FTN BinkD connections are solved the moment the passwords are set the same.

Nick

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Rick wrote (2024-02-09):

Hello All!

I have been experiencing some passwd errors I am not sure if its binkd or hpt. I host now 4 ftns on my hub and some of my downlinks are subscribed to more than one. Can they have different passwords for each network or do they have to be the same? I know yesterday I fixed it with the downlink by making his different networks have the same passwd but I have others with different ones that work just fine?

Where do you see the problems, where do you get errors? With binkd or hpt?

It shouldn't be a problem to use different mail / packet passwords (the passwords you configure in your tosser / hpt config). The binkp protocol does not support negotiating multiple passwords for multiple AKAs within one session / poll, which can cause "weird "problems"".

Some nodes use hide-aka lines in binkd.cfg to only present one specific AKA per poll. E.g.:

hide-aka 5:123/456@fidonet !*@fidonet
hide-aka 400:1/2@othernet !*@othernet

One AKA, one password per session -> no problems. Different passwords could work in this case. But I think it's better to just use the same password. Multiple passwords don't make it more secure.

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Hello Oli!

Friday February 09 2024 22:00, you wrote to me:

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Rick wrote (2024-02-09):

Hello All!

I have been experiencing some passwd errors I am not sure if its
binkd or hpt. I host now 4 ftns on my hub and some of my
downlinks are subscribed to more than one. Can they have
different passwords for each network or do they have to be the
same? I know yesterday I fixed it with the downlink by making
his different networks have the same passwd but I have others
with different ones that work just fine?

Where do you see the problems, where do you get errors? With binkd or
hpt?

It shouldn't be a problem to use different mail / packet passwords
(the passwords you configure in your tosser / hpt config). The binkp protocol does not support negotiating multiple passwords for multiple
AKAs within one session / poll, which can cause "weird "problems"".

Some nodes use hide-aka lines in binkd.cfg to only present one
specific AKA per poll. E.g.:

hide-aka 5:123/456@fidonet !*@fidonet
hide-aka 400:1/2@othernet !*@othernet

One AKA, one password per session -> no problems. Different passwords could work in this case. But I think it's better to just use the same password. Multiple passwords don't make it more secure.

So likely only their session pwds have to be the same?


Regards,

Rick

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Greetings Nick!

Friday February 09 2024 13:40, you wrote to me about an urgent matter!:

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On 09 Feb 24 06:28:00, Rick Smith said the following to All:

I have been experiencing some passwd errors I am not sure if its
binkd or hpt. I host now 4 ftns on my hub and some of my
downlinks are subscribed t more than one. Can they have different
passwords for each network or do th have to be the same? I know
yesterday I fixed it with the downlink by maki

In my experience dealing with different types of inbound BinkD
connections here, many weird "problems" with multi-FTN BinkD
connections are solved the moment the passwords are set the same.

What I am guessing is this is a binkd thing, I think If I host same downlink more than one ftn session pwds should match the other stuff is hpt and should be fine I am thinking...???



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Regards,


Rick Smith (Nitro)

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On 09 Feb 24 20:25:10, Rick Smith said the following to Nick Andre:

In my experience dealing with different types of inbound BinkD connections here, many weird "problems" with multi-FTN BinkD connections are solved the moment the passwords are set the same.

What I am guessing is this is a binkd thing, I think If I host same downlin more than one ftn session pwds should match the other stuff is hpt and shou be fine I am thinking...???

I'm not really sure, just that it was fixed here and left alone.

Hpt should have nothing to do with BinkD?

Nick

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Rick wrote (2024-02-09):

One AKA, one password per session -> no problems. Different
passwords could work in this case. But I think it's better to just
use the same password. Multiple passwords don't make it more
secure.

So likely only their session pwds have to be the same?

Yes.

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Hello Nick!

Saturday February 10 2024 09:17, you wrote to me:

* Forwarded from area 'BINKD'
On 09 Feb 24 20:25:10, Rick Smith said the following to Nick Andre:

In my experience dealing with different types of inbound

BinkD

connections here, many weird "problems" with multi-FTN BinkD
connections are solved the moment the passwords are set the

same.

What I am guessing is this is a binkd thing, I think If I host
same downlin more than one ftn session pwds should match the other
stuff is hpt and shou be fine I am thinking...???

I'm not really sure, just that it was fixed here and left alone.

Hpt should have nothing to do with BinkD?

Thats what I think as well, so I have the links cfg in hpt alone and just doing the session pwds in binkd, I have a couple downlinks helping with the test... so far so good.

Regards,

Rick

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Hello Oli!

Saturday February 10 2024 18:18, you wrote to me:

* Forwarded from area 'BINKD'
Rick wrote (2024-02-09):

One AKA, one password per session -> no problems. Different
passwords could work in this case. But I think it's better to
just use the same password. Multiple passwords don't make it
more secure.

So likely only their session pwds have to be the same?

Yes.

we are testing now, but that does seem to be the case

Regards,

Rick

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