Nick Andre wrote to Jas Hud <=-

Now now Professor... I'm in Philly next week. I made an open invitation
in Z1C for beer and wings at my expense for anyone that wants to meetup
in person.

We should organize a traveling sysops meetup, now that we can't meet at
a local watering hole. I'm going to be in Boston some time in the next
few weeks, and maybe Texas again. Who's local?




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On 12 Apr 23 06:53:00, Kurt Weiske said the following to Nick Andre:

Let me know when you install Spinnaker, and come to find out that you cannot modify the "dynamic webpages" without.... wait for it....... Borland Paradox.

I'll put that right next to my Filemaker web server in the dark recesses
of my mind.

Would those dark recesses also cross into Lotus Notes territory?

Nick

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On 12 Apr 23 06:56:00, Kurt Weiske said the following to Nick Andre:

We should organize a traveling sysops meetup, now that we can't meet at
a local watering hole. I'm going to be in Boston some time in the next
few weeks, and maybe Texas again. Who's local?

Before Covid happened I was making noise in Region 12 and elsewhere about getting a BBS-con going again, even if it was just a gathering at my place
or at some sleazy sports bar in Toronto with good wings, beer, darts, pool.

I had many Sysops reply with interest but never finalized anything unfortunately. Then a few months later came the stay-at-home orders.

Nick

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Re: Re: BBS Software Timeout Values
By: Nick Andre to Kurt Weiske on Wed Apr 12 2023 12:19 pm

I'll put that right next to my Filemaker web server in the dark
recesses of my mind.

Would those dark recesses also cross into Lotus Notes territory?

Grr, yes. Lotus Notes and WordPerfect Office/Groupwise, too.
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Nick Andre wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

Let me know when you install Spinnaker, and come to find out that you cannot modify the "dynamic webpages" without.... wait for it....... Borland Paradox.

I'll put that right next to my Filemaker web server in the dark recesses of my mind.

Would those dark recesses also cross into Lotus Notes territory?

Oh. gawd. make it stop.



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Nick Andre wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

And that new Sysop usually vanishes a few months later. Usually with no notice to his Echomail hub either.

I get that a lot in Micronet though we had some funny "self-destruct" sysops over the years.

-- Sean

... "I never think of the future. It comes soon enough." - A. Einstein
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Jas Hud wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

well when i was writing that i'm talking about the telnet age, not
dialup age.

I knew of several MBBS systems that supported both POTS and telnet in the
90s.

during the dialup years, i did subscribe to some of those and it was because they provided internet access when it was crummy in my area.

My friend started a dialup ISP in the 90s and eventully sold it to Earthlink for a tidy profit.

- Sean

... Press <Ctrl-Alt-Del> now to access the pirate software.
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Jas Hud wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

he used a bad example. what it was, was the boards all had their data files linked. so same doorgames, msg areas, user files, etc.

To me that is not anything individulistic but more of a hivemind.

- Sean

... Dragons make great pets. Just put down LOTS of newspaper.
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Kurt Weiske wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

Because it was messages, chat, door games, files, and the potential for much more - all done in a completely different way than the usual FTN, store and forward means.

You could just do that with a good CMS and not bother with a BBS, IMNSHO.

-- Sean


... Why does pizza get to your house faster than the police?
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Kurt Weiske wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

Sean Dennis wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

What Jaron Lanier was talking about was a micropayment system where you could compensate content on the web, in payments of fraction of cents
to sub-dollar amounts on a one-time basis to content creators in an unstructured way - imagine seeing a relevant post on Linkedin and
having the like button transfer 10 cents to the author. readers forward and share the content. Scale takes care of the rest.

You'd die in bank processing fees alone. I mean, you could use Paypal for that; why reinvent the wheel? Too many new sysops don't understand that
things work the way they do for many reasons. Like I said, every five
years or so, all of this "BBS newthink" crops up and it disappears just as
fast as it appears.

What I'd like is people to actually produce proof-of-concept instead of talk but as usual, nothing happens...

For me, getting everything working on FreeBSD was adventure enough.

-- Sean

... Not tonight, dear. I have a modem.
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Kurt Weiske wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

Where running a BBS became more lucrative was at the quarterly (or more often) get-togethers. Many pints of beer and coffee were bought for me which meant more than the subscriptions.

That I agree with. When I was stationed at Fort Hood from '96-'98, BBSes
were still quite popular and the weekly regional BBS meetup was so big we'd take over an entire restaurant. Those were indeed halcyon days.

-- Sean

... Are tired Army clothes called fatigues?
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To: Sean Dennis
Re: Re: BBS Software Timeout Values
By: Sean Dennis to Jas Hud on Wed Apr 12 2023 06:26 pm

Jas Hud wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

well when i was writing that i'm talking about the telnet age, not dialup age.

I knew of several MBBS systems that supported both POTS and telnet in the 90s.

yeah i did too. i was on metro gameport and the other bbses they owned.
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To: Sean Dennis
Re: Re: BBS Software Timeout Values
By: Sean Dennis to Jas Hud on Wed Apr 12 2023 06:28 pm

Jas Hud wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

he used a bad example. what it was, was the boards all had their data files linked. so same doorgames, msg areas, user files, etc.

To me that is not anything individulistic but more of a hivemind.

well it's something that wasn't very well thought out.
why have all these bbses when the datafiles are all linked?
why not have one?

i'm sure it started as 'hey we can get more users in our doorgames and people don't have to setup msg echos'.
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Sean Dennis wrote to Jas Hud <=-

My friend started a dialup ISP in the 90s and eventully sold it to Earthlink for a tidy profit.

That would have been a good market to sell in -- the large ISPs were
clamoring for local points-of-premise in the late 90s when dial-up was
king.



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