Hello All!

Can you believe these MAGA trash - whose ancestors came here as desperate immigrants fleeing death - are now turning against people doing the exact same thing to survive? They're predators of the worst kind - traitors to their own bloodline.

MAGA scum who support ICE raids and deportations: go f*** yourselves.

Alex

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Can you believe these MAGA trash - whose ancestors came here as desperate immigrants fleeing death - are now turning against people doing the
exact same thing to survive? They're predators of the worst kind - traitors to their own bloodline.

You assume too much about people. My ancestors didn't sneak into the USA. They had their buttholes searched, they were tested for tuberculosis, and most importantly: they were checked for criminal records.

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Hello Aaron!

Wednesday June 11 2025 12:08, you wrote to me:

You assume too much about people. My ancestors didn't sneak into the
USA.

That's because there weren't any issues with the border back then. If CBP One had been in place at the time and they had to wait a year in Mexico without any money left, they would have done the same thing - crossed through a hole in the fence.

You don't know what it's like to be so desperate that crossing the border is your only hope.

They had their buttholes searched, they were tested for
tuberculosis, and most importantly: they were checked for criminal records.

Just an FYI: Countries don't share criminal records with each other. There's no way for the U.S. to check the records of the countries these individuals came from (unless they're in INTERPOL).

Alex

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* From : Alex Galiyev, 1:129/14.1 (Wednesday June 11 2025 22:51)
* To : paul lee
* Subj : ICE RAIDS ============================================================================= Hello paul!

Wednesday June 11 2025 18:29, you wrote to me:

there needs to be a consequence for anyone who came in illegally, but
I don't think that NEEDS to be deportation - we need to come together
and talk about how we fix this issue.

Most people don't understand why some immigrants cross the border without authorization - but I know real stories.

A man fleeing Putin's regime. He only had enough money to fly to Mexico, where he applied officially through the CBP One app. He was told to wait up to a year for his turn. But he ran out of money while waiting, with no support and nowhere to go. Desperate, he crossed through a gap in the border. He immediately surrendered to U.S. authorities and applied for asylum. He is working his ass off for cash, often sleeping in a car.

Now, despite everything, ICE could still deport him - sending him back to near-certain torture or death in Russia.

agree that we can allow the 90% of good people remain here - we aren't fighting the right fight.

Most immigrants come to the U.S. simply wanting a normal life. But MAGAs label them all as criminals without knowing their stories.

We need to reform immigration AND deport all illegal immigrants. That
can benefit all of our ideas.

If Trump really cared about the border, why didn't he fix it during his first term?

Alex

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You assume too much about people. My ancestors didn't sneak into the USA.

That's because there weren't any issues with the border back then. If
CBP One had been in place at the time and they had to wait a year in Mexico without any money left, they would have done the same thing - crossed through a hole in the fence.

You're still assuming too much. You don't know when they came, all you know is that I'm a guy who doesn't believe the TV and to you that's "ee dee ot"

Just an FYI: Countries don't share criminal records with each other. There's no way for the U.S. to check the records of the countries these individuals came from (unless they're in INTERPOL).

Now I'm learning something about you: You're an illegal immigrant. Because people who came here legally know otherwise.

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On 16 Jun 2025, Alex Galiyev said the following...

What if you are Mexican or Salvadorian or from any other country?

I have no clue what other countries do. I just know what Canada does.

The guy in the little booth as I drive across the border and the customs guy at the airport both know what my criminal records are at entry.

My my HB2 visitor Visa, the one I didn't have to apply for can and will be rejected at the port of entry if I have a criminal record... Including DUI and simple things like that.

I have 2 passports. I use my Canadian one when entering Canada and my US for the rest of the world.

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On 17 Jun 2025, Ron L. said the following...

Alex is having problems understanding you because you are asserting that he is wrong.

People like Alex can't handle that.

Now think of the Lost in Space robot saying "That does not compute!"
over and over again.

Okay I get it!!!

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Hello IB!

Tuesday June 17 2025 08:25, you wrote to me:

I have no clue what other countries do. I just know what Canada does.

This doesn't apply to any other country. You said there are criminals checks for immigrants - NO, just Canada.

Alex

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I have no clue what other countries do. I just know what Canada does

This doesn't apply to any other country. You said there are criminals checks for immigrants - NO, just Canada.

There are no criminal record checks for the ones we're deporting.

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On 17 Jun 2025, Alex Galiyev said the following...

This doesn't apply to any other country. You said there are criminals checks for immigrants - NO, just Canada.

You are right that I know this... Because I use to be subject to this. Now that I have 2 passports entry into either country can only be slowed down because as a citizen they have to let me in.

Common sense would dictate that other countries has similar relationships, for those who are Visa exempt.

For those that apply for a HB2 visitor visa have to send an official criminal record with the application. They will be an interview at the local consulate as well.

I'm also sure there can be a back and forth between countries as well.

For example.... Maryland Dad... The authorities in the US claimed he was a MS13 gang member. 2 Immigration judges agreed. His wife said he was and as well El Salvidor said he was.

In the US Maryland Dad slapped his wife around... He probably argued that she asked for it and wouldn't listen... BUT in the US you can't beat your wife to a point where she fears for her life.

I do not know if El Salvidor has a similar agreement as Canada has with the US... I am sure that if the US authorities call a country they can get information on someone they need to know about.

On the news you hear that Immigrant XYZ entered the country illegally, circumventing the due process of the US. Is caught doing ABC in the country... F@cking their children... Trafficking vulnerable people... Raping and murdering peoples daughters and what not... ONLY to find out that they are wanted in their country of origin for similar things.

I don't know why or how the other country gave that information... or do I care.

The US, or any country for that matter, should not be robbed of the due process of people entering the country.

Arnold Schwarzenegger was on The View the other day and they thought they could trick him into agreeing with them...

The asked... You are an immigrant... What do you think about the ICE Raids... -=paraphrased=-

Arnold went on to say things like He came hear legally... with nothing... The country openly welcomed him and gave him the opportunities that all have in the US. He said that he didn't brake any of the laws... worked hard... loved the country and owes everything to the fantastic country.

He didn't fly the Austria Nation Flag, I think that's where he was from, while simultaneously burning and pissing on the American Flag.

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Hello IB!

Wednesday June 18 2025 06:51, you wrote to me:

For those that apply for a HB2 visitor visa have to send an official criminal record with the application. They will be an interview at
the local consulate as well.

You're a funny guy. That Official Criminal Record paper cannot be verified by the U.S. embassy, you can simply make it up.

Alex

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On 18 Jun 2025, Alex Galiyev said the following...

You're a funny guy. That Official Criminal Record paper cannot be
verified by the U.S. embassy, you can simply make it up.

You need to through your weight behind Trump... get your new phone and start your new services.

Wake up... @Aaron has your welcome package.

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