The republican's have had a majority in the house and have done
absolutely nothing with it. Don't vote for these sorts of politicians.

At least three times since 1973, the Democrats have had a majority in Congress and held the White House, yet they did nothing to codify abortion rights even though they ran on that issue multiple times.

Supreme court justices Kavanaugh and Barret both said that Roe v Wade was precedent and settled law when they had their hearings, so why codify it?

I don't see abortion as a political issue, it is a matter of health care for women. I don't think we need laws that block a womans right to privacy or health care.

Should we not vote for those sorts of politicians, too?

Democrats seem to be standing for a womens right to privacy and abortion. On that issue the democrats seem to be the only choice.

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No, he can't. The media only airs news that helps Democrats. They aren't going to air a story about "victims of illegal immigrants blame Biden/Harris." To get that news, you have to watch the video from the Tr rally.

There are no facts or news coming out of a Trump rally.

There is. You don't need to watch the video, just stare at Trump's head and listen to the victim's mother speak. You will know all you need to know about how and why she blames Biden and Harris for her daughter's death.

I'd link to it for you, but you know how that goes.

If you don't think that politicians should be held responsible when their actions cause deaths, then that's our biggest difference.

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If you don't think that politicians should be held responsible when their actions cause deaths, then that's our biggest difference.

Politians are not responsible for that girls death. Don't be silly.

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At least three times since 1973, the Democrats have had a majority in Congress and held the White House, yet they did nothing to codify abortion rights even though they ran on that issue multiple times.

Supreme court justices Kavanaugh and Barret both said that Roe v Wade was precedent and settled law when they had their hearings, so why codify it?

The short answer is to make it more permanent.

The long answer is because precedent can be overturned by a later court interpretation. An example would be a case that introduces some other legal question or precedent that previously-questioned SC candidates had not considered.

If it is codified into law in a manner that is Constitutional and doesn't violate any pre-existing laws, it is much less likely to be overturned by a later court interpretation.

I don't see abortion as a political issue, it is a matter of health care for women. I don't think we need laws that block a womans right to privacy or health care.

I don't necessarily either but, for many, many years now, both parties have made it so, and the Democrats in particular have campaigned as the
champions of this issue. Yet, when given opportunities to fix it once and
for all, they not only failed but they didn't even *attempt* to do so!

Should we not vote for those sorts of politicians, too?

Democrats seem to be standing for a womens right to privacy and abortion. On that issue the democrats seem to be the only choice.

Why would you believe them now? Kamala is campaigning on similar terms... making abortion permanently legal nationally... that just about every
previous Democrat in my adult lifetime has campaigned on. When given the chance, *NONE* of them did *anything* to protect womens' rights beyond lip service.


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If you don't think that politicians should be held responsible when their actions cause deaths, then that's our biggest difference.

Politians are not responsible for that girls death. Don't be silly.

While I would often agree with this sentiment, if the policies of an administration are so irresponsible that they lead to civilian deaths, I
tend to disagree.

There are many who still blame the policies of Bush (2), and sometimes
Clinton also, which they believe allowed several foreign nationals to
overstay their welcomes and lead to the 9/11 attacks. Oddly, some of
those same folks find it "silly" to blame the actions of illegal immigrants (who, by definition, have overstaid their welcome) who are here as the
result of Biden administration policies, on Biden's administration.


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The long answer is because precedent can be overturned by a later court interpretation. An example would be a case that introduces some other legal question or precedent that previously-questioned SC candidates had not considered.

Why are these rights even being questioned?

A woman should have the right to privacy and to do what she wants/needs with her body. This is what ~70% of the people want.

If it is codified into law in a manner that is Constitutional and doesn't violate any pre-existing laws, it is much less likely to be overturned by a later court interpretation.

I don't know ultimately what will happen now. Perhaps it will be codified into law.

I don't see abortion as a political issue, it is a matter of health care for >> women. I don't think we need laws that block a womans right to privacy or
health care.

I don't necessarily either but, for many, many years now, both parties have made it so, and the Democrats in particular have campaigned as the
champions of this issue. Yet, when given opportunities to fix it once and for all, they not only failed but they didn't even *attempt* to do so!

It became an issue now because the GOP was campaigning on it although they have recently (since Roe v. Wade was overturned) removed any talk about it from their websites been pushing it.

Democrats seem to be standing for a womens right to privacy and abortion. On >> that issue the democrats seem to be the only choice.

Why would you believe them now? Kamala is campaigning on similar terms...

She has no choice since Roe was overturned. It is an issue now.

making abortion permanently legal nationally... that just about every previous Democrat in my adult lifetime has campaigned on. When given the chance, *NONE* of them did *anything* to protect womens' rights beyond lip service.

We are he now not because of the Democrats, but because the GOP spent billions to get their choices on the supreme court. One thing thay wanted was to overturn Roe v. Wade.

Now that they've done it I'm not sure they want it but here we are.

The overturning of Roe v. Wade and the currnt state of SCOTUS is a GOP thing, not a Democrat thing.

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Politians are not responsible for that girls death. Don't be silly.

While I would often agree with this sentiment, if the policies of an administration are so irresponsible that they lead to civilian deaths, I
tend to disagree.

Politicians are responsible for the positions they take. They are not responsible for murders or deaths in the street.

It's possible that a politician will at some point commit murder and if they do they will face justice.

There are many who still blame the policies of Bush (2), and sometimes Clinton also, which they believe allowed several foreign nationals to overstay their welcomes and lead to the 9/11 attacks. Oddly, some of
those same folks find it "silly" to blame the actions of illegal immigrants (who, by definition, have overstaid their welcome) who are here as the
result of Biden administration policies, on Biden's administration.

I have never heard such stories.

Bush and Clinton are (of course) not responsible for 9/11!

Silly arguments!

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Why are these rights even being questioned?

A woman should have the right to privacy and to do what she wants/needs with her body. This is what ~70% of the people want.

Because this one involves an activity that some believe to be murder (but I am not one of them so long as it is done early enough).

Because this is one that used to be presumed to be illegal, then wasn't,
and now is in some places and not in others.

It became an issue now because the GOP was campaigning on it although they hav
recently (since Roe v. Wade was overturned) removed any talk about it from their websites been pushing it.

They campaigned on it because the Democrats were. I can remember when it
was ok for a Republican candidate to have more neutral stance. The
Democrats kept playing with the issue (while doing nothing about it!) until
the conservative Christians swayed enough Republicans to act on it.

Democrats seem to be standing for a womens right to privacy and abortion. O
that issue the democrats seem to be the only choice.

Why would you believe them now? Kamala is campaigning on similar terms...

She has no choice since Roe was overturned. It is an issue now.

There should have been a choice for the Democrats to keep their promises
and do something permanent about it under Clinton, and again during
the Obama years, when they had the numbers. Their first chance was during
the Carter administration, where it would have made sense to use the recent Supreme Court ruling as a opening to do so. They did nothing so, yes, it is
an issue now.

Well, maybe... but as you said....

I don't know ultimately what will happen now. Perhaps it will be codified into
law.

Which Kamala and her D friends may not do if their promises are as fake as their predecessors.

We are he now not because of the Democrats, but because the GOP spent billions
to get their choices on the supreme court. One thing thay wanted was to overturn Roe v. Wade.

If it had been codified before, and passed Constitutional muster, there
would be nothing for the GOP to have overturned. We are here because Democrats, when given the chance, did nothing despite warning us for
*years* that the GOP was going to come after women's rights.

I guess they cried wolf often enough, the wolf finally showed up and took
them up on it.


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I have never heard such stories.

Bush and Clinton are (of course) not responsible for 9/11!

Silly arguments!

Yes, but this is proof you don't know what you are talking about because
those arguments have been made. Immediately after 9/11, they were made by Democrat politicians... until it was pointed out that some of the visas in question had expired while Bill was still in charge.

The point being that many Americans would like for their politicians to
take responsibility for their sometimes horrible decisions.

I don't expect someone from Trudeauland to understand that.


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Why are these rights even being questioned?

A woman should have the right to privacy and to do what she wants/needs with >> her body. This is what ~70% of the people want.

Because this one involves an activity that some believe to be murder (but I am not one of them so long as it is done early enough).

Talking points. Murder is one thing, abortion is another.

They campaigned on it because the Democrats were. I can remember when it
was ok for a Republican candidate to have more neutral stance. The
Democrats kept playing with the issue (while doing nothing about it!) until the conservative Christians swayed enough Republicans to act on it.

The democrats did not play with the issue. Republicans have pushed it and now here we are.

Which Kamala and her D friends may not do if their promises are as fake as their predecessors.

What!?

If it had been codified before, and passed Constitutional muster, there
would be nothing for the GOP to have overturned. We are here because Democrats, when given the chance, did nothing despite warning us for
*years* that the GOP was going to come after women's rights.

We are here because of the actions of the GOP. Period.

I guess they cried wolf often enough, the wolf finally showed up and took them up on it.

See what I mean?

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Bush and Clinton are (of course) not responsible for 9/11!

Silly arguments!

Yes, but this is proof you don't know what you are talking about because those arguments have been made.

Not arguments. Conspiracy theories at best and bullshit at worst.

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I guess they cried wolf often enough, the wolf finally showed up and took them up on it.

See what I mean?

You do understand the story of the Boy Who Cried Wolf, right?

He cried "wolf" when there was not one there so many times that, finally,
when a wolf was there no one believed him and it was ultimately his fault
that he got eaten.

So I suspect you don't even see what you mean.


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I guess they cried wolf often enough, the wolf finally showed up and took >> > them up on it.

See what I mean?

You do understand the story of the Boy Who Cried Wolf, right?

I see the wolf.

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I guess they cried wolf often enough, the wolf finally showed up and took
them up on it.

See what I mean?

You do understand the story of the Boy Who Cried Wolf, right?

I see the wolf.

As I suspected, you don't understand the story.



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Mike Powell wrote to ALAN IANSON <=-

He cried "wolf" when there was not one there so many times that,
finally, when a wolf was there no one believed him and it was
ultimately his fault that he got eaten.

So I suspect you don't even see what you mean.

No. People like Alan has no self-awareness.


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